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21 Jul 2014   #1560

the ghost in Win-Mail

Bill, Endeavor, I apologize for not getting that file info back to you. It scares me every time I forget something because of the awful case of Alzheimer's my mother had. I have 3 brothers and a sister. All of us shudder every time we can't remember someone's name. Actually, I would think a large majority of folks can't remember names, where they put their glasses or their car keys, and never do end up with Alzheimer's/Dementia. Still that thought lingers. You folks here give me space cuz you know I'm older. I didn't say how old this time, but I think I did before. :)
Anyway, I don't know how to find previous posts. I suppose you use the post number somehow when you have it such as you've given in your replies. That amazes me that you can keep track. Since I don't know how to find those posts, would you help me out by letting me know what file information you need?
I appreciate the time and effort you boys and girls put into all this. BTW, the fresh install of Win 7 is out. I'm into 8.1 now. I read that MS is going to give a free joy ride into Windows 9 for those who are using Win 8.1. I'll go that route with this machine if that's true. My wife has one with Win 7 on it that I fixed up for her, and I have a desktop with XP/Win7 dual boot on it. And yet an older Dell laptop with Win MCE on it that I want to set up with Win 7 dual boot. When I get time, that is.
Don't retire, folks. You hardly have time for anything then.

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21 Jul 2014   #1561

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

I enjoyed your post very much RKelly, it made me smile and laugh (yes everyone forgets keys? I can't find my car!)

I'd be glad to help you find a post, I'm not sure if you're asking me or endeavor about information.

You move pretty fast for an 'old' guy. Already moved to win8.1 (me too, I like it) and planning on moving to Win9. Do you have a reference for the 'free joy ride'? I'd like to try Win9 too, even if it's a short joy ride (beta testing).

I'm not sure the old Dell will run Win7 very well.
See: Windows 7 system requirements - Windows Help

Gee, I'm semi-retired (can't let go of some of the day-to-day, but it's more like every 3rd day-to-every 3rd day)
I was hoping to retire fully someday when the kids take over or kick me out.


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21 Jul 2014   #1562

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)


I forget things all the time too, no worries. My mom had that diagnosis too when she was here, rip.
Anyway, to find your posts I mentioned is easy, just look at the top right of every post there is a number and and they go in numerical order, and simply note the numbers I mentioned and go back a few pages to that post, and read where you started and read the posts onwards to refresh your memory.

Basically you need to verify the version number of the files in your WinMail Programs folder, since you mentioned before you were moving them around or something as you played with OE transferring files or something a year or so ago, and you may have the incorrect program files in place and/or maybe even in the wrong folder x86... anyway you were going to get the files from your lady friends 7 computer and swap them with yours since her options screen were fine and her delete worked fine too.

Also please run the tutorial !
I'm not convinced you ever did going by our previous conversations where you activated your original Win7 by doing it piece meal with a few different ways.

Take good care
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22 Jul 2014   #1563

the ghost in Win-Mail

Now folks, don't you know doing things piece meal is so much fun??? I did re-run the tutorial and everything stayed the same. I haven't done anything with the files yet. I'm retired. Remember? That means I don't have enough time to get things done. heh heh. I do have the copy of my lady friend's files, but haven't done anything with them. As far as Win-Mail not emptying the Deleted Items folder upon exit, I'm just coping with it and do it manually.
Regarding the bit on Windows 9 being offered to Win 8.1 users free, I get a couple of different news letters. It may have been in one from PC World. We'll just have to wait and see about that one. If I hear any more I'll post it here- if I can remember.
Now about that little matter of forgetting, I have decided it doesn't pay to learn because the more you learn, the more you know, and the more you know, the more you forget. The more you forget, the less you know. On the other hand, if you don't learn a lot, the less you know. The less you know, the less you forget. The less you forget, the more you know! YEA for knowing more!!!
I've been doing these computers ever since the old Commodore 64s and some of those things came out. I had the Coleco which was a lot better than the 64 because you could get 3rd party stuff for it. I had 2 cassette type drives for it! Later on they even had a hard drive available for it, but by then I had scoffed up a factory built 286. That was the last factory built desktop I ever had. Since then I've built my own. You know- piece meal stuff. :) I've had a zillion laptops all torn to bits fixing them, etc. Even had the old CBs where you had to change crystals to get a different channel. Fun days.
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22 Jul 2014   #1564

Windows 7 Home Premium 64

Hi All,

It would be nice if we had a "Like" available on our posts as they do on Facebook. :)

Great post above by RKelly

I remember my son as a teenager being in our basement with his Commodore 64 and yelling to us upstairs to not pick up the phone because he was downloading on CompuServe.
Of coarse we would forget and pick it up...

I started out of need. TWA required up to get computers to view our schedules etc..

Mine was a ...386 SX with a $400 dollar 40 mb hard drive. Yes, mb.

Dos was a real education. Writing simple batch files was the most fun. Could you imagine it today.

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22 Jul 2014   #1565

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Donz View Post
... It would be nice if we had a "Like" available on our posts as they do on Facebook. :)

Great post above by RKelly
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, not FB!

Just having a little fun with you Don, Eightforums does have the like feature

You can always add to RKelly's reputation if you want to show your appreciation to him.
Click on the middle of three icons (the scale) in the upper right hand corner of his post
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23 Jul 2014   #1566

the ghost in Win-Mail

You folks are so kind and so gracious with your remarks. And helpful, too. If I wore a hat I would take it off to honor you, but I don't wear one unless it's freezing cold, so I'll just say thank you so much. I love people and try to be a blessing wherever I go. You have blessed me instead. Thank you. :)
I'll try to remember to post it here if I run across any more news on Win 9 being offered free to Win 8.1 users.
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10 Aug 2014   #1567

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
Crazy New Problem With Spell Check in Windows Mail

I have a new problem with Windows Mail, Windows 7 SP1 but this time on my laptop a Lenovo X1 Carbon. When I spell check an email the program will grey out, windows will search for a solution, Windows Mail will then restart and my work is lost. Even if I anticipate this and "copy" the email prior to spell checking my copy will disappear from the clipboard and not be available to paste when I am back in Winmail. I'm thinking something this crazy could only happen to me but I better ask.

Has anyone else ever seen this? Could it be related to a windows update? Just to add a little more weirdness, I don’t think it does it every day.

Actually now that I think of it there is also a second problem. If I have an email that has been saved somewhere else on the computer, the desktop for example or on a memory stick, I cannot open it in Winmail. If I double click on it Windows Mail opens but there is no sign of that email. Same thing if I right click and choose open with. I can use "open with" however and open with Outlook. Maybe my entire Windows Mail is corrupted and I'm out of luck
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10 Aug 2014   #1568

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit

I'm also baffled. I found an interesting discussion about the clipboard here: Why can programs empty the clipboard when they start up? - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN Blogs but it basically says that programs are permitted to wipe the clipboard when they start up, not that they will do this. Perhaps it's part of the crash recovery process, in your case.

Why do you have Outlook and Windows Mail on the same PC? Also, since Microsoft now uses the word "outlook" indiscriminately, I have no idea what program or perhaps, website, you are talking about, except that it is not the "Windows Mail" or "Windows Live Mail" clients. It's also unlikely to be "Outlook Express" since I have never heard of that running on Windows 7. All I can say for sure is that "Outlook" is somehow related to the process of sending or receiving emails, but where they reside, or whether, or how, they are saved to your PC is now a mystery, without a more descriptive explanation.
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11 Aug 2014   #1569

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit

Morning roncerr,

Yes that is an interesting discussion. It wouldn't be so bad if the clipboard were emptied because you were closing a program deliberately and knew it was going to happen and that you did not need the contents anymore. But of course it's a different story when the program restarts itself and you have no control over it.

Sorry to not be more specific, I can open the Windows Mail emails in MS Outlook 2010, part of MS Office 2010. It's on my computer solely for the use of my work email. That is the only reason I have it and the only thing I use it for. I still use Lotus Organizer since my first laptop in 1993 although I have upgraded to every new version until it was discontinued by the new owners i.e. IBM.
So to be more specific, right clicking on a Windows Mail email that has been moved to the desktop or some other folder outside of the Windows Mail program and choosing "open with" Windows Mail will open the Windows Mail program but not the email. Choosing "open with" Outlook will open the email as it would look in Outlook but I just noticed that the Outlook program will not also be open. Only the email will.
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