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11 Mar 2015   #1640
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Now sweat endeavor - no worries about posts in the WinMail tut. If that OE alternative is viable, why not let people who want it try it.

As long as they understand that the support for it isn't here.

I like your idea of a separate thread to discuss any issues members might have if they do try it. That will keep the focus on WinMail here and the OE alternative in that thread.

weMail is a bit schizophrenic (still Live mail in some place), but otherwise a fine client, y'all are just stubborn
and that's ok!

Anyone can create a thread for alt OE if they choose. I don't know if the software is tainted, if the website is tainted, or if it's more trouble than it's worth.

There's no need to apologize to me, endeavor. You own this tut probably more than I do since you're always here supporting other members - thanks for that!

Bill
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12 Mar 2015   #1641
RKelly5327

 
 

Hey Endeavor! I guess the right title is not Sir as much as what you said- Maverick. :-) Windows Live Mail was already installed on this tin can, so I just switched over to that for a while. It does look like OE is going to be supported quite well. I renamed the WinMail folders so they're still intact. I may mess around with that again later. Have a great day! Coffee is calling me and away I go to answer!
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12 Mar 2015   #1642
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Hey Ron,

Okay so I updated my Windows 8 with every update offered at Windows Update, and my WinMail still works fine with the updates <shrug>.
(Ex_Brit - is yours still working fine too?)

However even though everything seems to work fine for me, test bench observing what all the updates did was very interesting (and another subject) is that MS did replace (actually re-versioned them as well) a few but not all files in the WinMail folder... However having said that, Mine still works fine.

As you know the procedures for installing WinMail on 8 are surly different than it is here on 7, where on 8 when you first install/reinstate WinMail after taking folder ownership, you replace All the files in your WM Programs Folder with what you had in your same working Windows 7 folder; on 7 though you only change the msoe.dll. (not that it matters but interestingly they did not touch msoe on the 8 update) Anyway, the information of replacing your 8 Programs folder with your saved 7 Programs folder following (although maybe not perfectly written) the Tutorial over on the Eight Forum, is the answer to getting you back working.
Also I know you told me last year you use an imaging program to backup your C:\ partition, and so right there, you also have a way to instantly get it working again, and then proceed, etc...

Yes your Outlook Express install renamed your WinMail folder to old and so there you just needed to delete the one they made and rename yours back. However Ron, from our previous conversations last year I was never convinced how or what you did to re-instate your Windows 8 WinMail setup. Also the fact that you have multiple email clients installed now further complicates trouble shooting to the point that I don't know if I want to, only because, said in an appreciative way, you fly by the seat of your pants <smile> with how you roll on the will of the wisp ..and I'm very methodical and need the i's dotted and the t's crossed when I do installs or testing.

Don't do any major installs or updates without first creating a backup partition image. Put yourself in control...in the drivers seat, and don't let software situations control you. Take Control!

I've replied to Your Post over at the Eight Forums rewritten for there, but basically saying the same thing as here.

We don't want to confuse WinMail 7 users with that of what's done on 8, so for the most part except the informative, we should keep things for 8 over there.
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27 May 2015   #1643
NoMatterWho

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Well, guys: finally I made Windows 7 x64 work flawllessly with every update: it needs slightly different .reg file, not the same as for x86. Should I make it public or there no any interest for that.
I made working .reg files for windows 8.1 both x86 and x64 too
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27 May 2015   #1644
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Hello NoMatterWho, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Sure, you could upload them here if you like.

Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
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27 May 2015   #1645
andjayik

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

why not that would be cool!!
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27 May 2015   #1646
NoMatterWho

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

There are both x86 and x64 versions; they are slightly different against those in Win74umsZip, but absolutely compatible with everything else

WinMailEdit_64.reg
WinMailEdit_86.reg

Hope Ya' enjoy it. Just substitute original WinMailEdit and it's done


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27 May 2015   #1647
andjayik

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

and this is just for win mail correct?
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27 May 2015   #1648
NoMatterWho

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Sure. Windows Mail for Vista in Windows 7
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27 May 2015   #1649
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoMatterWho View Post
There are both x86 and x64 versions; they are slightly different against those in Win74umsZip, but absolutely compatible with everything else

Attachment 360490
Attachment 360491

Hope Ya' enjoy it. Just substitute original WinMailEdit and it's done
I've only briefly had a chance to look over your reg file, and right away without going to far with it, said with all due respect, the fact that you are posting HKCU entries tells volumes, since absolutely None are needed because WinMail creates all of those automatically on it's own when launched without any intervention by anyone; as a matter of fact it is preferred to let each persons WinMail program create their/it's own personal HKCU settings which it does so Automatically when they first launch WinMail - and moreso as they go along adjusting each one of their own options in WinMail - the appropriate entries get automatically added instantly. For a small instance I see you put in your or some else's, HKCU....Mail\Rules... entry, and naturally we don't want those - we want our own rules settings which again and again will be created automatically when each person sets their own settings. I could on, but I won't.

The fact that you have a half dozen unnecessary "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00" entries throughout your reg tells all we need to know, and I don't mean that sarcastically, just truthfully.
In truth there is not much you can add to the current supplied WinMailEdit.reg that is needed or hasn't been thought of already. I know you mean well, and you may 'think' things are missing when you first look over the current entries in WinMailEdit.reg, but I assure you there are not, and everything done was intentional all for very very good reasons.

Thank you for your interest though.

As to your post over in the Eight forums about Windows Calendar, Bill left that out on purpose, and I agree with him. Also over there I see you're looking for beta testers, well honestly we've all been through this before here.
My suggestion is instead of posting this whole cobbled together reg file, instead just post only the (non HKCU keys) that you think are needed, and why. I do not know how to speak Russian - I wish I did though, so I can't help you there either sorry.

Also fwiw, there is Nothing you can add to the registry file that can stop MS's updates from breaking WM (I don't know why you think there is) because as you must know there is nothing a registry entry can make that will prevent any version of an MS update from changing files or registry around at will - and disrupt your current setup. However as already known when a future MS update breaks things - and they will, all you have to do is re-run the Tutorial and it will automatically put the things back in place; however having said that, when the time comes that MS does something in a Future update that changes that equation and surly it will happen eventually, we have everything in place to track each of those changes, and put them back to a working solution.

Until then the Tutorial is pretty tight the way it is, imvho&e

All the best,
Thank you
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