Windows Mail

Hey Ron,

Okay so I updated my Windows 8 with every update offered at Windows Update, and my WinMail still works fine with the updates <shrug>.
(Ex_Brit - is yours still working fine too?)

However even though everything seems to work fine for me, test bench observing what all the updates did was very interesting (and another subject) is that MS did replace (actually re-versioned them as well) a few but not all files in the WinMail folder... However having said that, Mine still works fine.

As you know the procedures for installing WinMail on 8 are surly different than it is here on 7, where on 8 when you first install/reinstate WinMail after taking folder ownership, you replace All the files in your WM Programs Folder with what you had in your same working Windows 7 folder; on 7 though you only change the msoe.dll. (not that it matters but interestingly they did not touch msoe on the 8 update) Anyway, the information of replacing your 8 Programs folder with your saved 7 Programs folder following (although maybe not perfectly written) the Tutorial over on the Eight Forum, is the answer to getting you back working.
Also I know you told me last year you use an imaging program to backup your C:\ partition, and so right there, you also have a way to instantly get it working again, and then proceed, etc...

Yes your Outlook Express install renamed your WinMail folder to old and so there you just needed to delete the one they made and rename yours back. However Ron, from our previous conversations last year I was never convinced how or what you did to re-instate your Windows 8 WinMail setup. Also the fact that you have multiple email clients installed now further complicates trouble shooting to the point that I don't know if I want to, only because, said in an appreciative way, you fly by the seat of your pants <smile> with how you roll on the will of the wisp ..and I'm very methodical and need the i's dotted and the t's crossed when I do installs or testing.

Don't do any major installs or updates without first creating a backup partition image. Put yourself in control...in the drivers seat, and don't let software situations control you. Take Control!

I've replied to Your Post over at the Eight Forums rewritten for there, but basically saying the same thing as here.

We don't want to confuse WinMail 7 users with that of what's done on 8, so for the most part except the informative, we should keep things for 8 over there.

Well, guys: finally I made Windows 7 x64 work flawllessly with every update: it needs slightly different .reg file, not the same as for x86. Should I make it public or there no any interest for that.
I made working .reg files for windows 8.1 both x86 and x64 too

Sure. Windows Mail for Vista in Windows 7 :)

Dear Endeavor!
At first, with all my respect to You and Your great job over that topic, please don't post such huge posts with such little sense of that.
That files are tested since begin of the year because I clearly understand that if propose something for people I need to be sure it's not harmful for their system. If I say "it works" - it works. End of story.

As for Calendar - if YOU think it's over, it's not for others. Moreover, that topic shows WRONG way to start Calendar, that's why notifications only work when system starts and when Calendar is opened. I made it working all the time, but it's a little bit of tricky, so if all others are agree with You, I even don't start messing with explanation, that why I asked in that topic. But again, I asked about someone is interesting. If someone is NOT intersting as You are, keep silence on that topic if quiet enough

As for beta testing, please read carefully what I wrote overe ther. Where You found I asked for speak at Russian with me please? I told about files for Russian and English system are different and personally I have Russian system so I need somebody to test everything in English system.

Honestly, I quiet disappointed personally Yours reaction to my post, because I hoped You will be more constructive. I hoped personally You will help me to improve English version of 8.1, because beta testing needs some kind of knowledge, not only enthusiasm. I'm sorry for misfiring in You plans

P.S. For start use Mail in Windows 7 actualy You don't need all those violation of system with take ownership etc. because You can take rights to msoe.dll exactly in a couple of simple steps. I still think Win74umsZip is great for newbies because of simplicity, but I can show very simple way: take ownership for msoe.dll manualy, replace it and start my .reg file. That's all.

Dear NoMatterWho!
It was not my intention to upset you, and if I did - I apologize.
Don't be as you said disappointed, and don't take it personally; I meant no harm.

As far as Calendar goes I don't use it at all sorry. Yes I know there are those that like to use it like our member Ex_Brit, if you want you can ask him about it.
I know that Calendar thread you posted in is very outdated and may not be current, ask Ex_Brit, but again I never have used calendar and have no interest in it; besides my wife insists I use the calendar she has hanging on the refrigerator.
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All I did was take a quick look at the what you offered in the download you give as WinMailEdit_86.reg, and the first thing I saw was some unnecessary personal:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFF]
"Name"="Ignorierte/gelesene Nachrichten ausbl."
...................../\
(see what I mean)
Same for all the HKCU Toolbar settings... etc
There is more, but the same would be true for all the HKCU entries that you added extra.
Again no HKCU are needed at all. Again each persons WinMail registry HKCU population are software triggered/added 'automatically' and appropriately, the first time a person launches WinMail.exe, and thereafter adds more to it as they start changing their own options the way they want to. If you want to see and prove that for yourself, start fresh with a virgin install, and track all those actions as you go along. I have done that many times and know the process well.
The fact is, no HKCU should be supplied in our reg file, nor should it be.

If you have other specific registry entries you want added, please list them separately, and tell us the reason why please.

When I also saw in your reg file many different entry listings of:
"Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00"
..when only one at the beginning is needed...
I then realized that I'm not the one you want working with you.
You asked me to be constructive, my answer is, this is me being constructive.
Our temperaments and language differences would not communicate or work well together.
This is where, and what I think you were telling me to keep quiet - I'll keep quiet then.

As far as the automatic 'take ownership' of files, which is Slartybarts handywork - and I think a fine one, so please see him if you want to make any changes.

I appreciate you, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, thank you!
Sincerely all the best