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02 Feb 2016   #1690
terri13

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by terri13 View Post
Since the new WinMailEdit. isn't there yet, maybe it wd be easier for you to tell me how exactly I replace the msoe.dll? I wd surely appreciate your help and hope I'm not going out of the bounds of this post by asking you--I wd much prefer that to taking the 'long way around'! Thanks, Terri
I did not mean the term the long way around the way it sounded. The instructions what to do have already been clearly given.
If you are asking me the basics of how to you replace the msoe.dll, which is simply to Copy/Paste the 'correct' one on top of the other to replace it, which takes 5 seconds - to run the tutorial just takes a few minutes, so you see the term 'long way around' I used was relative. If you don't know how to proceed then that's why the tutorial is there that does everything for you so just use the tutorial process.

You mention new tutorial but it is the new tutorial already, again the only thing missing is the one simple registry key added to the WinMailEdit.reg that then deletes the one registry key as you run the tutorial process, that then stops SFC from overwriting the proper msoe.dll going forward 'specifically' on Win7 x64. You terri don't need to do that to make 'your' WinMail run again, it's only needed if you want to run SFC again as mentioned.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by terri13 View Post
The list of files for my current WM installation has both a msoe.dll and a -msoe.dll (note the dash on second one), so do I replace one of those? I still have the files in my download folder from my original installation of Windows Mail, and see a msoe64.dll there, which I assume is the 64-bit version I need. Is that what I use to replace whichever of the dlls, or both, that are now in my program file? I'm afraid I'm rusty on all this as haven't had a serious glitch to repair in awhile! So I was hoping someone could tell me exactly how to just replace the faulty dll file.
Thanks for your reply.
Well, if you feel you want to do it manually, I see you have everything you need already from your second post quote above.
Be sure WinMail is closed before you begin.
Now just delete both the msoe.dll and the -msoe.dll you mentioned above thats in your WinMail programs folder now.
Now copy/paste that msoe64.dll you mentioned that's still in your downloads folder, into your WinMail programs folder which is:
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
..of course then Be Sure to rename that file now to just msoe.dll
..and that's it, WinMail should start right up
(fwiw, terri, if you had run the first page Tutorial again on your setup, in the end, the only changes made, ends up to do the exact same thing! - so both way are good)


Now to fix SFC, if you wanted to add the registry key yourself, then for now until Slartybart adds the entry to the WinMailEdit.reg, then to do it manually make a registry file of that same key and merge it, is done by opening a new blank .txt file in notepad, copy/paste this entry (within the quote) into it:

Quote:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Winners\amd64_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_none_c3c1597075bcd214]
Save the notepad file as anything.txt ... then rename the extension from .txt to .reg, and then double click this new reg file to merge its contents - done. SFC wont bother x64 WinMail msoe.dll anymore.
Thank you so much for setting me straight, Endeavor--yes, I did need your instructions on the actual process of replacing that msoe file and it worked like a charm. I have my Win Mail back and it's working fine, which is a shock as I expected to see the problem it had which (foolishly) made me run the sfc in the first place.
Then I went to follow your last instructions, Endeavor, on adding the reg fix to prevent the sfc from doing it again. I'm sure I'm missing some little thing, but when I go to change extension to reg, after renaming and saving notepad file, I get a warning that 'if you change file extension, it may become unstable,' and also 'windows explorer has a problem' box comes up. So it won't let me--I know it's user error and I'm missing something.
Nevermind, I saw what I missed--didn't fully paste, left out title Windows Reg Editor, so now I have successfully added that entry into my registry.
Thanks so much for all your help! Terri


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02 Feb 2016   #1691
endeavor

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Good for you Terri, I am proud of you!
You see it was easy, and if you had to do that again you could do it in 1 minute, same thing if you had to run the tutorial after the first time, would only take a few minutes.
Again though if you ran the Tutorial instead of doing it manually like you just did, the end result would of been the exact same thing! (except for the 'extra' reg file merge you had to do to get that new entry in, but I'll get that added into the WinMailEdit.reg shortly via Slartybart)

By the way, that warning about changing file names is just a generic prompt is all, and no matter what you typed in the reg file it would have saved; but I think when you renamed it the first time you left out that single period (.) is all and that's why it did that.

Oh, and btw, just to make sure you have the right value merged, and fwiw, that line wrap problem that shows on the 'second line' of my quote as:

[-
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE...<snip>

..should be all on one line, which however when you copy/pasted it all properly into notepad, that line wrap issue should of fixed itself automatically! ..and so just to check yourself, right click that reg file again and choose 'edit' this time, and look at it all and it should be exactly the same as my quote but that wrap issue should be fixed now being all on one line, and the beginning of that second line should look like this:

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE...<snip>


Nice job Terri
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02 Feb 2016   #1692
terri13

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Thanks, Endeavor, I did get typical warning prompt about changing registry, and also the verification prompt that I had changed the registry, so felt good about success on that. I can always verify that the key is in registry when I have time.
Now, I may be breaking rules(hijacking?) or in wrong thread, but I've always had a problem in Windows Mail that I've just lived with, much like the not highlighting a word to spell check, but didn't see it mentioned in your list of known problems. So I wanted to ask if there's any workaround to not being able to click on urls within Windows Mail. It starts a whole string of Internet Explorer errors that you must close out and you never do get to the link. Is this another thing you just must live with, using WinMail? I have all my defaults set to WinMail.
Most importantly, thanks for helping me get my beloved WinMail back!
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02 Feb 2016   #1693
endeavor

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by terri13 View Post
So I wanted to ask if there's any workaround to not being able to click on urls within Windows Mail. It starts a whole string of Internet Explorer errors that you must close out and you never do get to the link. Is this another thing you just must live with, using WinMail? I have all my defaults set to WinMail.
Most importantly, thanks for helping me get my beloved WinMail back!
You're welcome for the previous help.
Make time please and don't put off checking the validity of your reg file that you merged please, it's important!
If it is not exactly like I mentioned, don't delete it, but I need to know what it is you merged, as we don't want to cause unintended problems, and that is Exactly why we always stick to the rule of having people running the Tutorial to fix things, and not post random fixes for the end user to perform, which if they don't do it right can cause other unintentional problems.

About the new problem you bring to light about clicking IE links within WinMail. I've never seen or heard of that problem in Windows 7 & WinMail, and I use WinMail on Windows 7 every single day! for the last many many years. Mine works fine and so does everyone else I know that uses it clicking links within. And so it seems whatever the issue on your computer is unique to you, but is not on anyone else's computer. I will have to think about it for a bit how to help you properly.
Naturally don't click links in it for now if it causes problems, if I can figure out a fix I will let you know, but I need to see the problem to be able to figure out what it is and how to fix it.
Did it ever work right for you?
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02 Feb 2016   #1694
terri13

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by terri13 View Post
So I wanted to ask if there's any workaround to not being able to click on urls within Windows Mail. It starts a whole string of Internet Explorer errors that you must close out and you never do get to the link. Is this another thing you just must live with, using WinMail? I have all my defaults set to WinMail.
Most importantly, thanks for helping me get my beloved WinMail back!
You're welcome for the previous help.
Make time please and don't put off checking the validity of your reg file that you merged please, it's important!
If it is not exactly like I mentioned, don't delete it, but I need to know what it is you merged, as we don't want to cause unintended problems, and that is Exactly why we always stick to the rule of having people running the Tutorial to fix things, and not post random fixes for the end user to perform, which if they don't do it right can cause other unintentional problems.

About the new problem you bring to light about clicking IE links within WinMail. I've never seen or heard of that problem in Windows 7 & WinMail, and I use WinMail on Windows 7 every single day! for the last many many years. Mine works fine and so does everyone else I know that uses it clicking links within. And so it seems whatever the issue on your computer is unique to you, but is not on anyone else's computer. I will have to think about it for a bit how to help you properly.
Naturally don't click links in it for now if it causes problems, if I can figure out a fix I will let you know, but I need to see the problem to be able to figure out what it is and how to fix it.
Did it ever work right for you?
First to resolve registry entry--following that tree in regedit, I'm not seeing the exact thing I thought I copied/pasted--there's 2 mail core entries in registry, following that string to that point, but they don't match the rest of string--one says 'mail.core resources, the other just mail core, and neither have 'dll' or matching string of numbers/letters.
Is there a way to find what I added, or even a search function in registry?
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02 Feb 2016   #1695
endeavor

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I asked for you to look inside the anything.reg file you made is all, see post# 1691 last paragraph for task, definitely did not ask you to traipse through the actually registry.

Also if you would please not to include so much quote in replies if it's not necessary, thank you Terri.
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02 Feb 2016   #1696
terri13

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Sorry, ok, now I did what you had asked, and even making it full screen, it's in 2 lines, the second line starting after the dash after core...but maybe you're referring to the bracket--yes the { part is on same line as HkEY string. Sorry if I'm still not answering your question, but I am looking at it as you advised in 1691, at least...no more traipsing thru registry for me!
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02 Feb 2016   #1697
endeavor

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No you're not answering me I'm not sure what you mean, and I don't know how to ask any better than that. It's so blessed simple. I'm sorry, it's not your fault I'm not blaming you, but all of this WinMail procedure is for Advanced and or seasoned computer users only really. I don't mean to make it sound complicated, it's not.
Let's try it this way with an image, if your anyname.reg file when you edit to look at it, looks exactly like this (no line wrap around) then you are fine. (click image to open full if necessary)

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02 Feb 2016   #1698
terri13

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Mine is broken into 2 lines as I mentioned before, second line beginning after 'core-' this is looking at it as instructed at anyname.reg file, edit to look at.
BTW, I do have word wrap checked in notepad--is that the problem?
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02 Feb 2016   #1699
terri13

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Ok, at risk of oversimplifying, taking word wrap off does indeed have everything in one line when I view it this way, and I believe you said it wd go thru as one line even w/word wrap. So, I think it's just my viewing it where it's broken up, hopefully?
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