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02 Feb 2016   #1700
endeavor

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There are so many little basic things with understanding computer operations, and implications, and it seems we are touching many of the basics already.
WinMail re-instating is really only for Advanced users, and I mean no offense - you are great.
But yes I suppose one way is if you use no wrap and it's exactly as shown in that image I posted, and was merged as that value shown, you are fine.

I don't know what's wrong with your other WinMail link within email opening problem, it's only pertinent to your setup so must be something you did amiss along the way, and I'm afraid you won't be able to trouble shoot it with your understandings, and I imagine if you have no backups, etc, etc, so perhaps I've done all I can here.
At least you have WinMail itself working, and good for you, you fixed it fine.

The last paragraphs of my post #1693 still are as it is.


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02 Feb 2016   #1701
terri13

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I'm sorry for not thinking about the word-wrap setting the first time I checked as you asked--the 2 entries are indeed alike in every respect, mine and yours.
I do have everything backed up now, and will also do a separate back-up of all my emails.
The not being able to click on links has always been true since I installed WM w/the tutorial a few years ago; I was just so thrilled to have WM, and didn't realize it was a problem unique to me, but thought it was just something that didn't work like the highlighting of words for spell-check. I suspect it must be a mistake in my default settings and wish I could compare. Also, is there an IE setting that needs to be changed? I do remember at one time I changed a setting and Windows Mail disappeared, but fortunately I had set the appropriate restore point before messing w/it and so got everything back.
I do thank you for all your help and sorry you feel my 'understandings' make me unable to trouble shoot it. Thanks, Terri
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02 Feb 2016   #1702
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

It's not your fault, no worries. You are a great person, and I appreciate you.

My only point about the word wrap is where the first two characters of the second line in my quote in some posts I see got split from the third and rest of the characters like this:
[-
H
...and was not my intention but only a word wrap problem of the quote system, but I wanted to make sure that when it's copied into the registry file that was all one line, that's all I meant by that, and needs to be that way to be entered correctly and effective. Sorry for any misunderstandings trying to convey that point.

About the Link issue, I can guarantee that if you had a fresh install of Windows 7 and re-instated WinMail with the Tutorial, that just like mine and everyone else's, x86 & x64, you would be able to click links as you read emails in your preview pane of an email, and it would open up the links target. Frankly though I don't use that function very often, and fwiw is easy to copy that link into your browser to use it that way if necessary.

As you can imagine it's nearly impossible for me to know what you have done to your installation in the interim over the years that affected WinMail causing it not being able to open links. It could be most anything you tried installing extra, or side effect of an install, or other. If I had your computer in my hands I could track it down and fix it, but not the other way around.
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03 Feb 2016   #1703
terri13

windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Ah, well I actually did my copy/paste of your regedit from the body of the email notification of your reply, and it had no such splits of characters there!
My WinMail link issue has always been there from the day I installed WinMail on this computer. In fact, that was one of the first things I did(not wanting to use Windows Live Mail), so there weren't any programs, other than what HP puts on out of box, and the Windows stuff at that point. Even now, I don't have very many programs that I installed on this, other than some video editing software and dvd burning program, 1 virus protection program and Malwarebytes. If it every worked correctly, then started not working, I wd have known it was an issue that could be fixed...I just assumed it was part of using the 'wrong' email program in Windows 7 since links never worked, and have dealt with it all this time.
As you pointed out, I just copy link to browser, but even after a couple years, one's impulse is to click on the link, especially since I use other computers also! And the resulting chain of IE errors keeps on coming at you, window after window!
But, hey, I got Windows Mail back and for that I'm very grateful to you! Thanks, Terri
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03 Feb 2016   #1704
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Good info Terri, and well written, and with information that is important and helpful, and was also good to read some background details finally.
I really want it fixed for you, I'll think on it; I know in the end the resolve will be simple, but, as I said without having my hands on your keyboard with all my software equipment using some forethought and testing, to flow it all into a resolvent or fix, it's nearly impossible for me to re-create your exact setup no matter how much I want to (which I do) to help you solve the issue. I will keep a thought open about it for you going forward though.

Thinking a bit, I do recall on my own setups, it was a while ago though, that once in a while, yes clicking a link within WinMail would not work right in some way. It was a few years ago, but yes I do remember it. It has not failed in a few years though !!! This brings me to a logical question, what version of IE (Internet Explorer) are you using? One way to tell that is when you are on a webpage online, go up to and click the top tab of:
Help> About Internet Explorer: ..and in here mine says version 11.0.9600.17959
My only point here - I just want to make sure you are not on IE v8, or v9, or v10 ...I just care that you have some version of v11 is all; and yes, what version of IE does affect the operation of WinMail when it comes to these browser issues.
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03 Feb 2016   #1705
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

fwiw, just a reminder that an updated and always current description of all the problems that affect WinMail users on Windows 7, 8, or 10 whom use WinMail out of its native environment (which is Vista) and will never be fixed, will always be located in this post Here: WinMail Bug list
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04 Feb 2016   #1706
terri13

windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

Thank you for that info, Endeavor, and I have a couple things to report. Since you told me my problem wasn't universal at all, I delved into IE and found a setting where Windows Live Mail was listed as an accelerator on add-ins for IE. I changed that setting to 'remove as default,' and then also disabled it. So far, now I can click on the link in my notification email about your replies to a post, and it takes me to Windows 7 Forum!!! I tried one other link within email and it was also successful, so fingers-crossed, it was just a missed setting fix. In future, I'll definitely ck that WinMail Bug list, when I encounter a glitch, so yet again, thank you!
Now, it's time to talk about my original WinMail problem, which led me to foolishly running the sfc, amongst other trouble-shooting measures. Until I got WinMail up and running, it was pointless to bring up original problem.
I had opened WinMail back in December, it came up normally, received new emails, except the screen which wd preview email was blank...clicking on an emai, I got a prompt that said I didn't have enough memory to display email, on this 6g ram, 1 tetrabyte hard drive computer. Even a simple text only email, with no attachment. I thought maybe my in box had gotten too big even tho that's what I love about WinMail, it seems to handle huge amts of emails much better than outlook express. But cutting amt emails in In box by 2/3 didn't change anything. Thus trouble-shooting including sfc, and that's when you came in.
Now, I know you'll jump on same culprit I did for my problem, the video editing program, and some videos I had on hard drive...that's my theory, unless you tell me that I need to export some of the huge amt emails out of WinMail, I think total of 3g emails. I really don't think that's the answer b/c pretty sure I've read of others in this thread having much more emails in their WinMail program.
Furhermore, and probably tied in with this as I've read that IE11 can be a memory hog, now I can't run IE 11. Every time I install from Windows Update, the result is it won't open, or in a couple attempts this week, it comes up blank screen, stays a few seconds, then closes. No error accompanies this behavior. So, I keep rolling back to IE 10 by un-installing IE11, and IE10 works fine, but of course, is now unsupported, so I need to get 11 to work.
WinMail is back to displaying all emails fine, but I noticed when I clk on a picture attachment, it won't open. If I save to desktop, it opens fine, but before I could always open any attachment w/o saving. I'm sure that's related.
So, do I need to get videos off this hard drive, a total of maybe 10 hours of video. I didn't think that was all that much when I hear about ppl keeping many movies on their computer. Of course the hard drive has tons of room left, 846 gb free, but this seems a ram issue, I'm guessing.
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04 Feb 2016   #1707
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

You are only now telling me you have Windows Live Mail installed! LoL, but I asked you and you told me you did not install any extra programs! I really have no support for WLM and especially when someones has both WM & WLM installed at the same time (although others have done it before just fine) That's probably your whole problem all along.

Your other mention of clicking a message and getting prompted you have not enough memory to display it, sounds more like a WLM issue again, but does not have anything to do with the 'meaning' of the message it's giving, and certainly nothing to do with how many videos or whatever is on your Hard Drive elsewhere not related to WinMail. That Memory message is generic and means something else entirely, and has nothing to do with RAM or HD space left.

However just to mention I've seen people who get unnecessary excessive large email stores, then yes WinMail will start to open and perform sluggishly. There is a limit of what WinMail will carry within efficiently. Looking at mine I see my own ''WindowsMail.MSMessageStore'' file is about 150 MB and I even belong to many tech newsgroups which are loaded on WinMail ...but if you are saying yours is over 1 GB (which btw is 1000 MB) then that's too big. If ones needs to cleanup and delete very large emails with attachments you can right click on an email and select to SaveAs, and save it as an .eml extension in a dedicated folder somewhere else if you still want to save it, and then delete it out of WinMail. Also quantities of unnecessary emails that serve no purpose can and should be deleted. Compacting email stores is fine for what it does, but it can and will not solve the problem of having way too much content within it in the first place.

IE11 for me was a great improvement over all other versions pre-IE10. Yes IE11 can be tricky to install since it needs a number of prerequisites installed first. I personally prefer IE11 on my Win7 setups, but having said that yes I do remember IE10 actually was fine - and if it works good for you then keep it okay.

Clicking on picture attachments or opening attachments in WinMail has settings in Options that govern that, familiarize yourself with them and their functions. Again though if you have Windows Live Mail installed, then all bets are off and really there's nothing I can do to support that, only to say that on a fresh install with no other conflicting email programs to get in the way, then WinMail as far as all these things you bring up work just fine.

Remember please we want to keep this WinMail thread only pertaining to re-instating WinMail and is its only purpose, and I offer no support for anything other than re-instating WinMail. When searching elsewhere in this or other forums, or searching Google for advice, remember to be extremely Very Discerning as to what is the Correct advice and answer is, before committing changes to your system.
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04 Feb 2016   #1708
terri13

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I've never used Windows Live Mail on this computer, and really didn't realize I could seperate it out from other Windows Live Essentials programs and uninstall it, till I cked the Forum's tutorials on it. I immediately followed instructions and uninstalled Windows Live Mail plus Live Messenger this morning.
The clicking on attachments and not opening is new behavior, but I'll ck settings to see if somehow they got changed.
Also, it sounds worthwhile to just back-up a ton of emails and then delete off Windows Mail. Would instructions for making a back up email file in WinMail when it's installed on Windows 7, be the same as for Vista, as that's what comes up on search, but I assume it's just because WinMail is native only to Vista, and method wd be same?
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04 Feb 2016   #1709
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

I also want to clarify that the Tutorial is in fact up to date and current for Windows 7 x86 & x64 users to run SFC without it replacing the msoe.dll incorrectly as to proper WinMail operation. It has been so since 6/1/2015

fwiw, the previous posts with Terri having a problem with her WinMail x64 install being bothering by SFC at all, is only because she had re-instated her WinMail before that date and used the outdated tutorial files. If she had downloaded the latest and ran the current tutorial again - it would of automatically taken care of replacing her msoe.dll correctly and at the same time setting her registry correctly against future SFC issues. I take responsibility for not connecting the dots between the time-line sooner.

Going forward, anyone that runs SFC and it breaks WinMail for either x86 or x64 users specifically on Windows 7, is only because you do not have the correct and latest Tutorial files. Be sure you download the latest from page 1
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