Windows Mail

Greg S · 22 Jan 2010

poppa bear said:

To GregS re:

You can do the installer with your way of getting winmail, which is keeping mostly Win 7 files for it. If I'm not mistken, his installer is just a zip file that automates the process. I mentioned doing this somewhere in this thread. Got a go PB, I'll be back this afternoon with more info on the questions you asked

Thanks Greg. No urgency about answering the questions I asked, but at your convenience.

Forgot to mention that with the revised method of importing WinMail using all your regedits, and removing WinMail attributes, it even works with Windows Mail Live installed; and over-rides it, offering to make WinMail default on first start up.

Cheers PB

UAC is User Account Control and SRP is Software Restriction Policy. The latter being one of the best free security controls available and it's built into windows. I have mine set to turn off or on via a shortcut in the start menu which points to a batch file that is coded to either turn off or on. It's the same as going into local security policy but it's quicker with a shortcut especially if one installs and test alot of apps.

Moving on, I've extracted the installer and it appears to be using the Vista versions of WinMail so maybe akwexavante could get on board and modify his installer to use your method which in my opinion is better in the long run.

johannes778 · 24 Jan 2010

Cheers Mate,
It works wonders

Also that take ownership is fantastic.
Thanks a million

Han

poppa bear · 27 Jan 2010

Modified Method to Enable Windows Mail in Windows 7

Please note: The credits for researching & developing the modifications in this guide go primarily to GregS; and to Ex_Brit for the regedit to disable the splash screen at startup.

Without forgetting the originator, Mr. Grim, without whom none of this would have been possible in the first place.

This method incorporates the various modifications discussed in this thread to simplify the process and remove conflicts.

Here's how!

See OPTION TWO in tutorial on first page.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

Greg S · 28 Jan 2010

poppa bear said:

Modified Method to Enable Windows Mail in Windows 7

Please note: The credit for researching & developing the modifications in this guide goes to GregS.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

Honestly, the real credit should be Mr GRiM for letting us know that something like this was even possible. Also to you for your continued testing on a Win 7 clean slate as a tester outter,lol

andjayik · 28 Jan 2010

why do we need to do all that? All i did was copied and paste the vista mail into my 7 mail and works no problem! Wasy and no extra downloads and stuff.

poppa bear · 29 Jan 2010

To andjayik re:

why do we need to do all that? All i did was copied and paste the vista mail into my 7 mail and works no problem! Wasy and no extra downloads and stuff.

Without wishing to sound critical, I'd say you are one of a very small percentage of the lucky ones, and that's great if it worked that easy for you... more strength to you. But if you read the previous 300 plus posts in this tutorial it didn't work that easy for most people.

When I tried to do it the original way and ran Take Ownership, it didn't work on all the files, so I had to take full control manually. Then when I finally got everything imported I couldn't open email .eml files on the desktop. Even after associating .eml files with WinMail, when I clicked on them it opened the main WinMail program, not the email itself.

Finally, after I got that sorted, I had to manually set Windows Mail as the default program. And to cap it all off, when I ran the system file check command "check scf /scannow" in the Run box, it borked the system. And ditto when I ran Windows updates. Also, in some environments having WinMailLive installed also borked it.

The upgraded and simplified method developed by GregS, and incorporated into post 317, (three posts up on this page), deals with all these problems in one hit.

- The regedit file WinMailEdit.reg enables email .eml files to open on the desktop; disables the WinMail splash screen on startup; and removes an x86 registry key that conflicts with the imported Vista "msoe.dll" file.

- The cmd in the Run box: "attrib -s -h WinMail.exe", (which removes attributes), prevents conflicts from updates; and from running the system file check command: "sfc /scannow".

- "Footnote 1" gives a workaround if certain complications occur in manually taking full control of the file "msoe.dll" when "Take Ownership" won't work.

- "Footnote 2", shows how to modify a registry key which appears in some environments and stops email .eml files from being opened on the desktop.

- Finally there's a bonus thrown in. The WinCal RegEdit.reg file allows the Windows Calendar button in the top taskbar of WinMail to work after importing Windows Calendar from Vista. The only thing that couldn't be fixed was the help files.

However, probably the most important aspect of this revised method is that it only replaces one of the original Windows Mail files, "msoe.dll", keeping all the rest which are auto compatible with the Windows 7 operating system, and hence create no conflicts which need to be fixed. This new method only needs to deal with conflicts created by the imported Vista file "msoe.dll".

Post 317 was developed as an all round summary for installation, and fix, for most of the problems encountered.

Phewww!!! Does that answer the question?

Cheers Poppa Bear... keep on truckin, eh!

tuckinrimins10 · 30 Jan 2010

I need the windows mail link for 64bit.. anyone have a link?

Thanks

poppa bear · 31 Jan 2010

To tuckinrimins10 re:

I need the windows mail link for 64bit.. anyone have a link?
Thanks

There were links but Microsoft asked for them to be removed as they contravened the copyrights.

If you have access to a 32 bit version of Vista Windows Mail file, there is a work around. See General Notes 3, at bottom of post No 317, on previous page of this thread.

Cheers PB

tuckinrimins10 · 31 Jan 2010

A admin pm'd me them last time but my pm's were removed some how. I tried what you sent me but was unable to get it to work.

poppa bear · 31 Jan 2010

To Tuckinrimins10 re:

A admin pm'd me them last time but my pm's were removed some how. I tried what you sent me but was unable to get it to work.

When importing a 32bit Vista WinMail to a 64bit Win7 OS, it is essential to delete the entire original 64bit Windows Mail folder from the 64bit Program files, after first making a back-up copy.

Then import the entire 32bit Vista Windows Mail folder, not just the msoe.dll file.

And it must be imported to the 32bit Program files in Win7, which is named Program files (x86), as can be seen as in this picture, which can be enlarged by clicking on it.

Windows Mail-location-x86-program-files.jpg

This means you will have to take ownership of every file in the original Win7 Windows Mail folder to be able to delete them. I found that Take Ownership worked with single files, but not with folders. So I had to take full control manually as shown in Footnote 2 of the guide.

Also, you will still need to do all the other steps of running the download regedit file WinMailEdit.reg; removing the attributes with the Run command: attrib -s -h WinMail.exe, etc.

Good luck, PB

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