Windows Mail

primal said:

Cheers PB much appreciated:)
2 things

1 When I booted my PC today the windows mail was still there but the account I had created was gone and I had to recreate. Later I rebooted and the account was there but it had been off overnight in the first instance.

2 I was able to copy all my message from win mail on vista by importing. But, a folder I had created especially for read receipts will not copy. I can copy it and I can create a READ folder in win 7 but copy to folder is greyed out. It is a small thing but would like to get it right if possible. Have noted your further comments

There are different methods of importing Windows Mail folders, accounts, emails and contacts. Some of these methods create problems. I don't know exactly which method you have used. I have done a post found here on the method which I found the easiest and safest.

If I understand you correctly, the account is now stable and holding.

This means the only problem remaining is with the custom folder you created and not being able to drag/drop to it. Unfortunately, I don't know why this is so. You could try deleting it, rebooting and re-creating it.

However, if I were in your situation, and wanted a squeaky clean installation, as long as you have all the original emails and folders, (including custom made ones), intact in Vista Windows Mail, then I would import the whole thing from scratch as per the post I've mentioned above.

Part of that process is to totally delete all files in Local Folders in Windows 7, found under AppData (not program files),via the pathway shown below. This is the only way the import will work properly. But the beauty of it is that you're importing to a clean slate, with no inherent problems from past history. This is the pathway, however, to see AppData, you will need to change View settings to allow hidden folders to be visible:

Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

It imports all Accounts fully set up; All Local Folders & Custom created sub-folders in their correct place, (*Note: A custom folder must have an email in it, or it won't import). All you'll have to do to make the accounts operable is put in your user name and password when prompted by your ISP when you first open WinMail.exe.

Since you simply copy/paste the entire contents of Local Folders from AppData in Vista, your emails in Vista will remain intact. However, you will lose everything in WinMail in Windows 7. So if you've got any emails there that are not in Vista, first save these to a back-up storage folder or USB stick.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB :)

poppa bear said:

primal said:

Cheers PB much appreciated:)
2 things

1 When I booted my PC today the windows mail was still there but the account I had created was gone and I had to recreate. Later I rebooted and the account was there but it had been off overnight in the first instance.

2 I was able to copy all my message from win mail on vista by importing. But, a folder I had created especially for read receipts will not copy. I can copy it and I can create a READ folder in win 7 but copy to folder is greyed out. It is a small thing but would like to get it right if possible. Have noted your further comments

There are different methods of importing Windows Mail folders, accounts, emails and contacts. Some of these methods create problems. I don't know exactly which method you have used. I have done a post found here on the method which I found the easiest and safest.

If I understand you correctly, the account is now stable and holding.

This means the only problem remaining is with the custom folder you created and not being able to drag/drop to it. Unfortunately, I don't know why this is so. You could try deleting it, rebooting and re-creating it.

However, if I were in your situation, and wanted a squeaky clean installation, as long as you have all the original emails and folders, (including custom made ones), intact in Vista Windows Mail, then I would import the whole thing from scratch as per the post I've mentioned above.

Part of that process is to totally delete all files in Local Folders in Windows 7, found under AppData (not program files),via the pathway shown below. This is the only way the import will work properly. But the beauty of it is that you're importing to a clean slate, with no inherent problems from past history. This is the pathway, however, to see AppData, you will need to change View settings to allow hidden folders to be visible:

Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

It imports all Accounts fully set up; All Local Folders & Custom created sub-folders in their correct place, (*Note: A custom folder must have an email in it, or it won't import). All you'll have to do to make the accounts operable is put in your user name and password when prompted by your ISP when you first open WinMail.exe.

Since you simply copy/paste the entire contents of Local Folders from AppData in Vista, your emails in Vista will remain intact. However, you will lose everything in WinMail in Windows 7. So if you've got any emails there that are not in Vista, first save these to a back-up storage folder or USB stick.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB :)

PB Thanks again for your feedback
Yes the account is stable and holding

I did it by going to Window mail tools/options/advanced/maintenance/store which is C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders

Then I went to that path in explorer and copied everything into a backup which I placed on the vista desktop. Copied to a USB and put USB in 7 machine. Then imported everything. I found that there was a two of everything. The original inbox/outbox on the winmail 7 and the imported ones. So I copied all the mails and deleted the imports. This worked for everything except my custom folder for read receipts. I could, as stated, recreate this but the mails would not copy. I cannot recall if my custom folder imported but if it did the same thing applies i.e. could not copy read receipts. I just tried your manual method as at:-
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2. Manual Method:
Open WinMail.exe application on the Vista desktop.
In Local Folders: Drag and drop contents of each sub-folder onto a USB data stick. That is: Inbox, Outbox, Sent Items & Drafts; plus any custom made sub-folders you have created, such as Accounts, Invoices, etc.
Open WinMail on desktop of Windows 7.
Drag and drop contents of Inbox, Outbox, etc, from the USB stick into the corresponding folders of Local Folders in WinMail. In Local Folders, it will be necessary to create matching sub-folders for your imported custom made folders, before you can drag/drop to them.
Set up email accounts manually.
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I ws able to copy the contents of the vista custom folder to its comrade on 7
I found I only needed to copy the contents of the READ custom folder as the rest were there. That OK? If not I can delete all the files in app data in 7 and start over

Cheers to you too PB, much appreciated

For the purposes of clarity, the reason you got two sets of everything was because Local Folders in Windows 7 needed to be totally cleaned out before importing.

Thanks for that explanation PB. I understand all the other points you make about the path etc but that did not occur to me. I am now setting up all accounts in the win 7. Thanks for all your help

Thank you good work

Hi Mr Grim
I have done the steps at least four times and I still cannot see win mail. Therefor I cannot do step 4 b.
I am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits
Thank you
unoromanista194

unoromanista194 said:

Hi Mr Grim
I have done the steps at least four times and I still cannot see win mail. Therefor I cannot do step 4 b.
I am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits
Thank you
unoromanista194

WinMail.exe in the Windows Mail folder in Program Files is made visible by doing Step 2. See Footnote 3 at the bottom of the tutorial to see exactly where to look for the program files. Do NOT look in the 32bit Program files(x86).

Step 2 involves running the "remove attributes" command in the Run command box. The command you need to type in is exactly as shown below in black type, and the best way to make sure you don't make any mistakes with it is to copy and paste it into the Run command box:

COPY THIS ==> attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

Once it's pasted or typed in click: OK.

Having done this, WinMail.exe will be visible in Windows Mail folder Program Files.

Hi
Thank you very much for the quick come back.
I have done what you said ans still no winmail.exe
I must really be doing something crazy.
Thank you
unoromanista194