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29 May 2010   #530
mick823

Win 7 Professional and Windows 8 Professional
 
 

Poppa Bear,

I had located the WMUtil.exe prior to making the post. Running the WMUtil program did not correct the problem. Cleaning out the Local Folders in AppData seems to have worked so far. Thanks for the precise instructions.


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29 May 2010   #531
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mick823 View Post
Poppa Bear,

I had located the WMUtil.exe prior to making the post. Running the WMUtil program did not correct the problem. Cleaning out the Local Folders in AppData seems to have worked so far. Thanks for the precise instructions.
Hey that's great mick823. Lets hope it stays that way. There may have been something in those folders that was carried over from Vista depending on how you transferred you emails. Post 374 outlines some of the problems which occur if the whole Windows Mail folder from AppData is imported over, instead of just Local Folders content.

Cheers PB
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04 Jun 2010   #532
wileyC

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I need a seconardy email client and detest Live-gives MS an excuse to hit you with junkwarez. Follow your steps to the letter on 64x. Have a program file with the winmail.exe in the folder. Problem-I cant get it to run.
THe rub seems to fall below. No eml_auto_file regkey. Any thoughts???

HKCU - Classes eml_auto_file
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04 Jun 2010   #533
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wileyC View Post
I need a seconardy email client and detest Live-gives MS an excuse to hit you with junkwarez. Follow your steps to the letter on 64x. Have a program file with the winmail.exe in the folder. Problem-I cant get it to run.
THe rub seems to fall below. No eml_auto_file regkey. Any thoughts???

HKCU - Classes eml_auto_file
It's hard to know off-hand exactly what the problem is. Just to cover a few basics:

I. If HKCU - Classes eml_auto_file is not present in the registry then this footnote does not apply, and it would not be the reason why it won't work.

2. I assume that since writing this post you have re-booted your PC and it still doesn't work?

3. Do you have Windows Live Mail installed. If so I'd suggest uninstalling it via Control Panel --> Programs and features --> Uninstall programs. Also uninstall any associated Windows Live programs.

4. I assume you downloaded the correct 64bit msoe.dll file and made sure it went in the normal Program files, not the Program files(x86)?

5. Since running the tutorial have you downloaded the latest Microsoft updates? If you have, you will need to reinstal the msoe.dll file shown in Step 4 of the tutorial, because update KB 978542 modifies the msoe.dll file. Don't uninstall this update if you've got it, because it will just download again and bork the msoe.dll again. Just leave it there and simply replace the msoe.dll.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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05 Jun 2010   #534
jms

windows 7
 
 

Hello Poppa Bear,
Can you please help me with this?. I have done all the steps related in the modified method (post 317) but, in the step 4, I can not find eml_auto_file in the Classes.
Thanks in advance.
jms

Hi again,

I have to say that even don´t having the eml_auto_file in the register, the method is working fine to me at the moment.

Are there any other KB, than 978542 in the Windows Update that can modify the msoe.dll?
Thanks,

jms
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05 Jun 2010   #535
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jms View Post
Hello Poppa Bear,
Can you please help me with this?. I have done all the steps related in the modified method (post 317) but, in the step 4, I can not find eml_auto_file in the Classes.
Thanks in advance.
jms

Hi again,

I have to say that even don´t having the eml_auto_file in the register, the method is working fine to me at the moment.

Are there any other KB, than 978542 in the Windows Update that can modify the msoe.dll?
Thanks,

jms
Footnote 2 of the tutorial says: "Manually edit the following registry key if it is installed." If it's not installed you don't need to worry about it.

To the best of my knowledge KB978542 is the only update that affects the msoe.dll. It was brought in to counteract a potential security breach in the original msoe.dll. The msoe.dll downloaded from Step 4 of the tutorial is a Vista msoe.dll that has been modified by KB978542 in Vista, and hence secure against the potential breach.

Once the security breach is fixed, it would be unlikely, but not impossible for another breach to occur at some point in the future. However, since all the original files in the Windows Mail folder are the original Windows 7 files, the only one that should ever need changing is the msoe.dll. That was the whole point of the updated tutorial, as was developed by Greg S.

Cheers PB
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05 Jun 2010   #536
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 
Windows Live Mail as an alternative

Windows Live Mail as an alternative.

Without wishing to be a turncoat to the WinMail faithfuls, for those who may want to consider WinLiveMail as as alternative email client, the following information might help. I was asked by Microsoft to review WinLiveMail, and these are the comments I sent to them.

There may be other comments members may wish to add to this post.

Or the Microsoft representative, Jeff Putt can be contacted at: jeffputt@microsoft.com

Or there is a feed-back option to Microsoft specifically for WinLiveMail via this link: here

WinLiveMail is computer based in the sense that it uses the Windows Mail files already in Windows 7. However, you still have to download some files from Windows Live on the net to make it work. The "Windows Live" folder is stored in 32bit Program Files(x86). When I downloaded it, I chose only the "Mail" option, and ignored all the other Live programs. It basically works the same as WinMail, but has new positions for some of the buttons, added features, and a somewhat different view of the main window. You can disable any interactive options and just use it basically as a stand alone program, which is what I've done. I am running it concurrently with Wndows Mail and can choose either as default email client via "Set Default Programs".
  • The "Send Receive" button has been replaced with a "Sync" button. When this is pressed, it shows the same window for incoming/outgoing mail as Windows Mail.
  • Every email account is shown individually in the left pane of the main window, with it's own set of folders for Inbox, Drafts, Sent Items, etc. So if you've got 3 or 4 email addresses you'll have 3 or 4 Accounts in the left panel, each with it's own folders.
  • It also has a "Quick View" set of folders at the top of the left panel which shows a summary of all emails. And you can customize the Quick View to show which emails you want to see, such as Junk, Drafts, etc.
  • Finally it has a set of "Storage Folders" in the left panel, under the Accounts. The folders include: Drafts, Sent Items, Deleted Items, Inbox, Junk Mail and Outbox.
  • It has 45 color options for text, as opposed to 15 in WinMail.
  • It has 70 Emoticons you can put into the text.
  • The Menu bar is not shown by default, which is typical of all Windows 7 folders. You need to click an icon in the top right of the task bar and tick "Show Menu Bar".
  • It has 3 buttons on the left above the main text: "Format'", "Photos" and "Layout". The photos button allows photos to be added. The Format & Layout buttons allow a photo to edited by rotating, changing size, adding a text box, auto correcting the image, changing the type of framing, etc.
  • Images are added using: Menu --> Insert --> Image --> Inline. There is no button in the taskbar to insert images as in WinMail.
  • In the left panel under the accounts, there are buttons which change the main window display to: Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Feeds and News Groups. As you click each one, the main window is changed, so you see the item mentioned; except for Contacts which are shown as a separate window.
  • The format buttons are in a drop down menu rather than individual buttons on the task bar, which is more inconvenient. The drop down menus include bulleting, numbering; formatting alignment such as Left, Right, Justify; as well as Indents & Insert a straight line.
  • When a contact in the Contacts folder is highlighted by hovering the mouse over it, it shows the option to send an email by single clicking this option.
  • Naturally, the SPAM/Phishing filter works, including updates, and is the same basic lay-out as WinMail.
  • When setting up accounts, once the user name, password, and display name is entered it auto fills the POP3 & SMTP protocol; and provides links to set up IMAP for Gmail, etc.
  • Junk/SPAM email options are found under taskbar Tools --> Safety Options
  • It boots up a lot quicker than WinMail and there is no splash screen to disable.
The main objection is the enforced display of all accounts, which makes the left panel very bulky if you have a lot of accounts. Mostly though, it's just a case of getting used to the new format, and postions of command buttons. I've been testing it for two weeks now, and overall it's quite good, and the extra features helpful. Drop down menus are a pain after individual buttons in the task bar, but it does tidy up the task bar.

The main adavantage I guess is having a fully operational application, which won't be borked by updates.

Hope this may help those who for whatever reason can't get Windows Mail to work.

Cheers PB
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05 Jun 2010   #537
steelgtr

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.

bob
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06 Jun 2010   #538
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr View Post
Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.

bob
It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData as per Part A of the following post found here.

If your mom has downloaded the Microsoft update KB978542 the msoe.dll file in Windows Mail folder will need to be replaced with the new modified mose.dll file from the download link in Step 4 of the tutorial on page one.

If that doesn't fix it, the only other suggestion would be to re-run the tutorial from the top.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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06 Jun 2010   #539
steelgtr

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Thanks, we did do the KB978542 fix a while back..... This just happened yesterday after she said yes to some kind of update yesterday!


bob

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr View Post
Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.

bob
It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData as per Part A of the following post found here.

If your mom has downloaded the Microsoft update KB978542 the msoe.dll file in Windows Mail folder will need to be replaced with the new modified mose.dll file from the download link in Step 4 of the tutorial on page one.

If that doesn't fix it, the only other suggestion would be to re-run the tutorial from the top.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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