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16 Jun 2010   #590
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Import emails from WinMail to WinLiveMail Beta when both programs are active in Windows 7.

Revised method. The method originally shown in this post did work, but created duplicate folders on the HD in WinLiveMail under AppData.

After each step there is a screen shot of what you should see.

1. Open: WinLiveMail --> Click: Top left tab (in earlier versions it will be Menu Bar --> File) --> Drop down menu --> Import Messages --> Highlight: Windows Mail.


Windows Mail-drop-menu.png ==> Windows Mail-import-1.png


2. Click: Next. It should auto select Windows Mail as the source folder.


Windows Mail-import-2.png


3. Click: Next.


Windows Mail-import-3.png


4. Leave exactly as is with "All Folders" dotted. Click: Next.


Windows Mail-import-4.png


5. Click: Finish.

All your emails and folders will be saved in Storage Folders in the sub-foder named Local Folders.

Notice it has saved the custom created folder from WinMail named Custom Test, and re-named it to Custom Test 26c.


Windows Mail-import-5.png


6. Manually move all your emails from the sub-folders of Local Folders, to the appropriate sub-folders of the account of your choice. In this example, they are moved to the account Bern.

To do this, highlight all the emails in Inbox, for example --> Right click --> Move to folder --> Select: Inbox in Bern account --> OK


Windows Mail-import-6.png


After all the emails are shifted, delete the folder named Imported Folders (1) from Storage Folders.

For a thorough clean-up. Open: Start Orb --> User name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Live Mail --> Storage Folders --> Delete the duplicate folders: Recovered Items (1) & Imported Folder (1).

Hope this helps.

Cheers PB





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17 Jun 2010   #591
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 
WinLiveMail Contacts

How Contacts/Sync function works in Windows Live Mail .

Off Topic

This is not the correct forum for this post, but since a number of posts have been made in this thread re the topic of how the Sync function works with contacts, I'm posting this as a one off to clarify this function.

In Windows Live Mail there is an option to Sign In/Stop signing in on start up of WLM, (Windows Live Mail). under the following pathway:

Open: WLM --> Menu Bar --> Tools --> Options --> Connections Tab --> Sub-heading: Connecting to Windows Live services --> Sign in or Stop signing in.

In the current version of WLM, (not Wave 4), the default option is with Sign in switched off. When it is switched on, a screen displays asking for your email address and password. It also has a box that can be ticked to: Remember my password.

Once it's turned on, if you then choose Stop signing in, a warning comes up saying: "If you stop signing in, you will stop synchronizing contacts and calendar events for.... (then it shows your email log in address)".


A) With the "Sign in" function switched on and:

1. Remember my password --> Ticked

At start up a splash screen briefly displays showing that WLM is signing in, and the main window opens with all contacts available.

2. Remember my password --> Unticked.

At start up a static splash screen displays, showing the option to sign in by filling in your email address and password. It also has a Cancel option.

If the Cancel option is clicked:

- WLM opens without signing in.

- All Contacts are shown synchronized to the same contacts list as if signed in.


B) With the "Stop signing in" option switched on.

- The splash screen at start up has no options and displays briefly until WLM is open.

- WinLiveMail will be permanently logged-off, and will function like a normal email client such as Windows Mail, with only one contacts list.

- The Contacts list will be empty but can be filled by importing your current contacts from the Contacts folder on your hard drive

- The Contacts list will not be synchronized with the contacts list shown when Sign in is activated. This means if you switch back to Sign in option you will have to update your contact list shown when signed in. It also means you can have your web based contacts list empty so your personal contacts aren't out there floating in cyber-space, while still using your hard drive contacts list!

- None of the signed in functions will work, such as sending a Photo e-mail.

Having Sign in switched on, and Remember my password switched off, gives you the best of both worlds with the option to log in or not at every start up. However, if you don't use the web based functions very often, it's a pain in the butt having to click Cancel every time you open WLM.

Notes: It's interesting that the folder Windows Live Contacts under AppData has only one sub-folder entry if Sign in has never been used. This is obviously the hard drive contacts.

After signing in for the first time as per option (A) above, it creates two additional folders for the synchronized contacts. Contacts cannot be added to the contacts list while you're not signed in.

If the first of these new folders is removed, no contacts can be seen whether signed in or not. And even though it re-creates this folder there are no contacts.

If the second synchronized folder is removed and the first one left, after signing in, it recreates the other missing folder and contacts can be seen whether signed in or not. Obviously the first folder connects to the web based contacts.

All WinLiveMail really needs now is an option to display only one set of Local Folders, and it would be a brilliant email program with many options for either client or web based functions.

Hope this clears things up. Cheers PB
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17 Jun 2010   #592
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 
Holy Cow!!!!!!!!!!

This is ABSOLUTELY incredible and I can not thank you enough. I switched to Win 7 as soon as it came out and was tremendously disappointed that there was no longer a Windows mail or Outlook Express type app. I HATED Live Mail and saw it as a way for MS to take more control of my personal life. I Googled for months to find a fix like this. Sometimes I would find a supposed link to one and then find out that what they described no longer worked i.e. it had been blocked or disabled by MS I assume. I don't care for Outlook because of the bloat factor. I still use Lotus Organizer and have used versions 2 through 6.1 (final one) since my first computer in 1994.

I don't want my emails stored out in the cloud. I want them on my computer. And I feel that what MS did was just so unfair and control Freakish. I have been using Thunderbird as a last resort and compared to Windows Mail it really is a Piece-O-crap. Sometimes I'll use Gmail when traveling and I can not send my business mail from the hotel.

This sounds silly I'm sure but for me these instructions are life changing. I am using email all day. This is absolutely fantastic!! Thanks again. I'm now going to go and import all the various Thunderbird and Live Mail etc into this sorely missed program.
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17 Jun 2010   #593
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
This is ABSOLUTELY incredible and I can not thank you enough. I switched to Win 7 as soon as it came out and was tremendously disappointed that there was no longer a Windows mail or Outlook Express type app. I HATED Live Mail and saw it as a way for MS to take more control of my personal life. I Googled for months to find a fix like this. Sometimes I would find a supposed link to one and then find out that what they described no longer worked i.e. it had been blocked or disabled by MS I assume. I don't care for Outlook because of the bloat factor. I still use Lotus Organizer and have used versions 2 through 6.1 (final one) since my first computer in 1994.

I don't want my emails stored out in the cloud. I want them on my computer. And I feel that what MS did was just so unfair and control Freakish. I have been using Thunderbird as a last resort and compared to Windows Mail it really is a Piece-O-crap. Sometimes I'll use Gmail when traveling and I can not send my business mail from the hotel.

This sounds silly I'm sure but for me these instructions are life changing. I am using email all day. This is absolutely fantastic!! Thanks again. I'm now going to go and import all the various Thunderbird and Live Mail etc into this sorely missed program.
Hi kewl1 and thanks for the kind words. It's made my day that this post has helped you. However, a lot of the thanks must go to roncerr.

He brought this issue to my attention with numerous posts and PMs. If he hadn't persisted in raising the problem, I would never have known it existed because when I first installed WinLiveMail it was a later version to his, and by default, was switched to "Stop signing in". So I just used the contacts list like a normal email client oblivious to the other meaning of the Sync function, aside from acting like a "Send/receive mail" button.

Cheers PB
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18 Jun 2010   #594
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

Well many thanks to RONCERR as well. This is great and I must start spending mre time in this forum.


Thanks again
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18 Jun 2010   #595
Raymond2512

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Mark, Thank you!
I´followed all your instructions and I got it!
Even when you posted this explanations on2009, it was now when I got a new computer with windows 7 Pro and I was missing my Windows Mail. I hate Windows Live Mail.
Again, thanks a lot
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18 Jun 2010   #596
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
Well many thanks to RONCERR as well. This is great and I must start spending mre time in this forum.


Thanks again
There are two other posts that might be helpful in setting up Windows Live Mail. The first one deals with the folders view of accounts in the left panel found here.

The second one is a general review of WinLiveMail that I did in response to a request from Microsoft, after I had contacted them expressing the ground swell of opposition to WinLiveMail. It is found here.

Update: Apologies. Think I may have mis-read your original post. Thought you were referring to setting up WinLiveMail. Realise you probably were referring to enabling Windows Mail in Windows 7. Guess that's what comes from making posts off-topic.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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19 Jun 2010   #597
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

No apologies necessary and yes you are right i.e. I am one of the ones who absolutely hated the new Live Mail. I'm so excited to be back with Windows Mail. I've spent hours converting and importing Thunderbird, Outlook and Live Mail files into Windows Mail on two computers.
Thanks again
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19 Jun 2010   #598
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
No apologies necessary and yes you are right i.e. I am one of the ones who absolutely hated the new Live Mail. I'm so excited to be back with Windows Mail. I've spent hours converting and importing Thunderbird, Outlook and Live Mail files into Windows Mail on two computers.
Thanks again
Thank you. Just to cover all bases in case you haven't seen it in the posts a few pages back, Microsoft brought out a security update KB978542. It is best to have this update, but once it's installed, it will stop WinMail from working.

If you had it installed before you did the steps in the tutorial, you don't need to do anything.

If you haven't got it, it's best to download and install it to protect your security. However, after it's installed you will then need to re-install the msoe.dll file from Step 4 of the tutorial on the opening page of this thread.

Cheers PB
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20 Jun 2010   #599
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

Thanks Poppa Bear. Indeed I found it already installed. That sure is good to know though. It really irratates me how they want to have such control over what we can and can't to with our computers. We have a program that we love but now that it no longer suits their needs they do all they can to kill it
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