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Windows 7: Windows Mail

03 Sep 2010   #770
18pcs

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alientrader1 View Post
I have been trying to get Windows Mail to work in my Windows 7 64-bit OS since May. I try every so often using your instructions (6 times so far) to get it to work, but it never does. Could you possibly list the instructions for 64-bit in the order needed, because every time you send me to footnote 3 or some other place, I never get the results you say I should get. I am desperate, as I am using Office 2007 Outlook now, and it is horrible! I just want a simple e-mail program like Outlook Express or Windows Mail, because I just do very simple stuff. Please, I beg you.

Thanks sincerely,

Barry
I was in the same boat as you as since the day I had opened my eyes to computers I was using OE and then suddenly had to adapt to WLM . I tried everything possible since more than a month now and accidentally stumbled upon Thunderbird 3.2.1 Believe me it is a dream come true and works beautifully. Much better than OE in my opinion specially the archive function is too good to be true. The previous version of TB was not so good. Please try it before you go bald trying to get WM working.


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03 Sep 2010   #771
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alientrader1 View Post
...I just want a simple e-mail program like Outlook Express or Windows Mail, because I just do very simple stuff...
I agree with you. Poppa Bear wrote the tutorial and he (and I) used WM on Win7 for a brief period. But we have both since decided to give WLM a real try and are still with it. Unfortunately, the new features hide the basic functionality somewhat, but it can do whatever WM did. It has the advantage of still being supported by Microsoft and is not as likely as WM to suffer from some miscellaneous Windows Update for Windows 7 (as happened once with WM on 7).

When I "reinstated" WM on 7 I was lucky in that I only had to deal with the 32-bit steps; but even so, it was a bit tricky "unhiding" and "taking ownership of" stuff. Perhaps you could print out the instructions as I did when I did it and post back exactly at which step you got an unexpected result and what it was. Or you could try WLM instead and ask for help with what you can't find in WLM that you could in WM on Vista or OE in XP.
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04 Sep 2010   #772
alientrader1

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 
WM in Windows 7--64-bit No can do

Thanks roncerr,

I will give it another try, and let you know where the problem begins.

I appreciate the option 18pcs mentioned, but Thunderbird is part of

Mozilla, and I find their stuff is still too complicated for me. I tried

FireFox and I couldn't even get the Autofill feature to work, as it

seemed to take a court order just to get it to work. I don't think that

I am completely stupid, but I just do simple things, and want simple

programs.

Thanks again,

Barry
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05 Sep 2010   #773
pete39

Windows 7 64
 
 
Other email clients

For the benefit of friends and a family who do not wish to use Windows Live Mail I decided it would be interesting to test various email clients.

I have installed and tried 34 so far, I looked at other email clients and dismissed them without installing, it was apparent straight away that they were either unsuitable or just plain rubbish.
My criteria being to match or better Windows Mail or Outlook Express and must be easy to install and set up.
They must look good have a spell check, Bayesian spam filter and an inbuilt back up facility/wizard plus good import options for other email clients, they must also have a degree of customisation.

There was only three that met all of the above requirements!

Pocomail, paid.
This the best I feel for most people as direct replacement for WM or OE.

MailCOPA. paid.
Very good but no back up wizard, backing up is complicated.

The Bat Home, paid.
Very good, it is a very busy looking client but it can be thinned out to make it more uncluttered and less daunting.

The following were the next best, they are good ones but were missing some of the requirements that I feel are important.

GcMail, paid.
Very good but does not have a Bayesian spam filter.

EverDesk Mail Lite, free.
Very good and it’s free but it does not have a back up facility.

DreamMail, free.
Very good but does not have spell check, if it had that it would be among the best particularly as it’s free.

These remaining ones did not match the top six.
Evolution. eM Client. WikMail Pro.Pegasus. Thunderbird. Thinc-Mail.
Koomail. Mirramail. Sylpheed. yMail. Messenger Pro. Eudora. Zimbra.
Mail Warrior. Postbox, Postbox Express. Mail Commander. Element.
Becky. Columba. Mahogany. Vista NetMail. Iscribe. Mulberry. Pimmy.
Incredimail. TrulyMail. Foxmail.

Remember this is just my opinion.

Pete
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05 Sep 2010   #774
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pete39 View Post
... easy to install and set up...
...spell check...Bayesian spam filter...back up facility/wizard...good import options...customisation...
Newsgroups?
Address Book (a.k.a. contacts)?
Message Rules (for sorting)?
Export to other fromats?
IMAP as well as POP3?
Choice of html or text?
Attachments?
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06 Sep 2010   #775
pete39

Windows 7 64
 
 

As I said "My criteria being to match or better Windows Mail or Outlook Express."
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06 Sep 2010   #776
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pete39 View Post
As I said "My criteria being to match or better Windows Mail or Outlook Express."
Sorry, I thought the limited list of features were your definition of "match or better". But if that's the main criterion, doesn't Windows Live Mail do that as well?
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06 Sep 2010   #777
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Don DeBaer View Post
I did finally get WinMail to open on my Windows 7 Ultimate. I think some of the problem was the fact that it was 64 bit. In any case....now the problem is that every time it does open...Winmail creates a new set of recovered message folders each time. I did put in my messages that I and address file that I needed to keep that were under the User/App/local.......files....but I am not understanding why it recovers these files on each launch. Not the messages each time...but a whole new set of file folders for the messages. Do you know how to correct this??
I am getting the same thing. Every time I open WIndows Mail I get a new set of folders. It only happens on one of the 2 computers I fixed Windows mail on (thanks t0 this thread) with Windows 7 Ultimate 64.

I'll try to attach a snip of what the folders look like. I've opened the bottom or latest one to show what is in them ie they are like Russian dolls where each contains another. There are no messages in them however.


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07 Sep 2010   #778
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Don DeBaer View Post
I did finally get WinMail to open on my Windows 7 Ultimate. I think some of the problem was the fact that it was 64 bit. In any case....now the problem is that every time it does open...Winmail creates a new set of recovered message folders each time. I did put in my messages that I and address file that I needed to keep that were under the User/App/local.......files....but I am not understanding why it recovers these files on each launch. Not the messages each time...but a whole new set of file folders for the messages. Do you know how to correct this??
I am getting the same thing. Every time I open WIndows Mail I get a new set of folders. It only happens on one of the 2 computers I fixed Windows mail on (thanks ti this thread) with Windows 7 Ultimate 64.

I'll try to attach a snip of what the folders look like. I've opened the bottom ot latest one to show what is in them ie they are like Russian dolls where each contains another.
You probably need to completely clean out Local Folders under AppData. To do this:
  • Save all emails to a storage folder on your desktop.
  • Show hidden folders by opening any folder and going to:
Tools --> Folder Options --> View --> Dot: Show hidden file, folders and drives.
  • Open: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders
  • Delete all files in this folder except Accounts files <-- keep these. See following diagram.
Windows Mail-capture.png




Note: The sub-folders of Inbox, Sent Items, etc, will be restored when you next open WinMail.

  • Close everything --> open: WinMail on desktop --> Create any custom sub-folders you may require under Local Folders in the WinMail interface... NOT in Local Folders under AppData.
  • Drag drop your saved emails from the storage folder on your desktop into the appropriate folders in WinMail Local Folders. You're done.
It should now start normally without re-creating recovered files.


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07 Sep 2010   #779
pete39

Windows 7 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pete39 View Post
As I said "My criteria being to match or better Windows Mail or Outlook Express."
Sorry, I thought the limited list of features were your definition of "match or better". But if that's the main criterion, doesn't Windows Live Mail do that as well?
Myself, friends and family do not wish to use Windows Live Mail, we don't want 'in the clouds' emailing.
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