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23 Feb 2011   #870
chaoticyeshua

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver123 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wing23 View Post
Please help me, I didn't find any solution yet.

I want to install SP1 and I use WinMail on Win7.
I don't know exactly which patch I applied, I remember copying the msoe.dll from an archive I extracted, later I applied some registry file to be able to open eml files

now I can't install SP1 because of an 80004005 error, it has to do with the winmail (mail_core_something)

3 things I tried: deleted the registry entry that has to do with mail_core in the sidebyside/winners part of the registry
I replaced all winmail files by files from another "unpatched" win7 PC
I ran the /scanmfc command, which found errors that couldn't be fixed

how do I install SP1 now?

Thanks for any help!
I`m afraid your only option is to do a fresh install of Windows 7 and them install SP1 and then put in Windows Mail.

I did it this way and Windows Mail works perfectly.
Surely there's a better way than this. I have two PCs with this same problem, and honestly, if I have to reinstall Windows to get SP1 working, I'm not going to perform this hack again...

Has ANYONE found a fix for the 80004005 SP1 error??


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23 Feb 2011   #871
Sylver123

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chaoticyeshua View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver123 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wing23 View Post
Please help me, I didn't find any solution yet.

I want to install SP1 and I use WinMail on Win7.
I don't know exactly which patch I applied, I remember copying the msoe.dll from an archive I extracted, later I applied some registry file to be able to open eml files

now I can't install SP1 because of an 80004005 error, it has to do with the winmail (mail_core_something)

3 things I tried: deleted the registry entry that has to do with mail_core in the sidebyside/winners part of the registry
I replaced all winmail files by files from another "unpatched" win7 PC
I ran the /scanmfc command, which found errors that couldn't be fixed

how do I install SP1 now?

Thanks for any help!
I`m afraid your only option is to do a fresh install of Windows 7 and them install SP1 and then put in Windows Mail.

I did it this way and Windows Mail works perfectly.
Surely there's a better way than this. I have two PCs with this same problem, and honestly, if I have to reinstall Windows to get SP1 working, I'm not going to perform this hack again...

Has ANYONE found a fix for the 80004005 SP1 error??
Have you gave a Repair Install on Your Windows 7 a go to see if this will eliminate your SP1 install problems and then try and install SP1 and then Windows Mail afterwards?

Repair Install
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24 Feb 2011   #872
wing23

Win7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

I totally understand chaoticyeshua
reinstalling everything on this PC just because of SP1 having trouble with winmail ... ugh, that's the very last step I want to think about right now

I also ponder trying a repair install, but this will reset some things and I'm also a bit scared (I'll make a backup beforehand, then try it out, but it's also a bite of a pita)

there's no way to remove or alter the winmail files/registry data to make sp1 work?
the whole winmail thing doesn't sound like it's a big thing :/
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24 Feb 2011   #873
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Hi PB,
Do you have a download link for Service Pack 1, x86? It's listed in my auto updates but will not install from there. The first time I tried, it downloaded to 31 percent, stayed there for about two hours with TrustedInstaller choking down system the whole time. I tried again for five hours with no joy. I hate to download the entire package considering the auto update listed it for me as only being 61mb but I thought I'd give it a try
Hi Greg,

I downloaded it from a re-direct in a post in "Windows 7 Forums", which I think is a different forum to this one. The name has a different format. The downside as you suspected is that the download for 64bit Win 7 is 903MB.

The following are two links.

The first is to a a link to the Win 7 Forums post here which is in my humble opinion is definitely worth a read.

Half way down the post page it directs you to the actual Microsoft download site. This is a link to the M$ download here.

You're right, it is a big download, but when I rang M$ to try and get a DVD posted out they said it wasn't yet available to the public on disc.

The third way would be to go to the M$ download center and search for KB976932.

Sorry I can't be more helpful in getting the update via Windows Update engine.

Cheers PB
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24 Feb 2011   #874
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chaoticyeshua View Post
Surely there's a better way than this. I have two PCs with this same problem, and honestly, if I have to reinstall Windows to get SP1 working, I'm not going to perform this hack again...

Has ANYONE found a fix for the 80004005 SP1 error??
Short of reloading Windows, the only other things you could try would be to:

1. Run a sysem file check, by typing the following code in the Run box and then clicking OK or pressing Enter on the keyboard: sfc /scannow

This should repair/replace any damaged/missing Windows 7 operating system files.

2. Restore you system to an earlier restore point.

3. There are many posts on ths error message found via Google by typing in the search engine: Fix for Windows 7 SP1 Error No: 80004005

I have successfully loaded SP1 on both 32 & 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate systems with WinMail enabled, and the only adjustment needed was to replace the msoe.dll file in the Windows Mail folder in program files as per Step 4 of the tutorial.

It is critical NOT to have interfered with any of the other original Windows 7 files in the Windows Mail folder, in either the normal 64bit Program Files or the 32bit Program Fieles(x86).
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24 Feb 2011   #875
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Hi PB,
Do you have a download link for Service Pack 1, x86? It's listed in my auto updates but will not install from there. The first time I tried, it downloaded to 31 percent, stayed there for about two hours with TrustedInstaller choking down system the whole time. I tried again for five hours with no joy. I hate to download the entire package considering the auto update listed it for me as only being 61mb but I thought I'd give it a try
Hi Greg,

I downloaded it from a re-direct in a post in "Windows 7 Forums", which I think is a different forum to this one. The name has a different format. The downside as you suspected is that the download for 64bit Win 7 is 903MB.

The following are two links.

The first is to a a link to the Win 7 Forums post here which is in my humble opinion is definitely worth a read.

Half way down the post page it directs you to the actual Microsoft download site. This is a link to the M$ download here.

You're right, it is a big download, but when I rang M$ to try and get a DVD posted out they said it wasn't yet available to the public on disc.

The third way would be to go to the M$ download center and search for KB976932.

Sorry I can't be more helpful in getting the update via Windows Update engine.

Cheers PB
Thanks. I found a link for x86 download. It was more pathetic than WinUpdate. Lesson learnt. Checking the box for do not install or bug me. Done with updating MS and their bloat language files and anytime upgrade extras. I have enough security in place to compensate for their updated language files, lol.
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24 Feb 2011   #876
alfranatic

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bits
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver123 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chaoticyeshua View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sylver123 View Post

I`m afraid your only option is to do a fresh install of Windows 7 and them install SP1 and then put in Windows Mail.

I did it this way and Windows Mail works perfectly.
Surely there's a better way than this. I have two PCs with this same problem, and honestly, if I have to reinstall Windows to get SP1 working, I'm not going to perform this hack again...

Has ANYONE found a fix for the 80004005 SP1 error??
Have you gave a Repair Install on Your Windows 7 a go to see if this will eliminate your SP1 install problems and then try and install SP1 and then Windows Mail afterwards?

Repair Install
Again,i still can't seem to find why there are 2 ways that work,first the tutorial here,which is a too big a hassle for me personally and second,
just removing all the handmade winmailfolders (copied entirely from i think a Vista source)..thus leaving all winmail 7 folders in original condition (or repairing them) and then installing the the servicepack1 (in my case about 85 MB) and then installing whatever hack you want again...

It works,but you will loose your handmade folders though,which you can make re-appear by reinstalling from a backup source-in my case:acronis ti-.

One thing is for sure:
I totally agree with Greg S .

Whatever scenario,personally i am also finished with this over the top nonsens updating,which causes in Holland ,where i live a lot more problems then i care to mention.

This time i will wait since all other updates install just fine, i don't see any reason to install yet another "killer" update..

Greetings to you all.
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24 Feb 2011   #877
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

I am extremely happy to learn from you folks that I will be able to get SP1 and still have my Windows Mail. I love Windows Mail and like Sylver 123 said above it's like an old friend ie Outlook Express that we have used for many years. I absolutely hated Windows Live Mail and Outlook is overcomplicated bloatware with many functions I don't need or want in a simple email program. I also didn't like Thunderbird. I have emails stored in my Windows Mail on one computer that go back to at least 1999, perhaps even older and I use it on a laptop and a desktop.

This forum has been fantastic for me and I was very much in fear of SP1 but it look like I should be OK. Long live Windows mail!!!

Regarding SP1 I read that if you go to the MS site the download is a mind-boggling 2 gig but if you get it from Windows Update it is much smaller. Windows Update has not offered it to me yet. I keep checking on both computers
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24 Feb 2011   #878
Promo

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Hi all,

I have a problem reinstating Windows Mail after installing SP1.
I read all relevant replies in this thread and performed the following actions:
- Replaced the new SP1 msoe.dll with the original working msoe.dll, that was present before installing SP1.
- Followed the exact steps listed in the tutorial again, to no avail.

When launching WinMail.exe I get these two error messages:
- "(0x8007000E)"
- "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.DLL could not be initialized."

I hope someone can help me out here, thanks!
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24 Feb 2011   #879
wing23

Win7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
1. Run a sysem file check, by typing the following code in the Run box and then clicking OK or pressing Enter on the keyboard: sfc /scannow

This should repair/replace any damaged/missing Windows 7 operating system files.

2. Restore you system to an earlier restore point.

3. There are many posts on ths error message found via Google by typing in the search engine: Fix for Windows 7 SP1 Error No: 80004005

I have successfully loaded SP1 on both 32 & 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate systems with WinMail enabled, and the only adjustment needed was to replace the msoe.dll file in the Windows Mail folder in program files as per Step 4 of the tutorial.

It is critical NOT to have interfered with any of the other original Windows 7 files in the Windows Mail folder, in either the normal 64bit Program Files or the 32bit Program Fieles(x86).
I did that
I even copied over both winmail folders from another win7 PC (well, after I applied SP1 on it)
but it didn't work at all :/

and the /scannow option found errors concerning winmail that couldn't be fixed because the backup (or however it was called in the error msg) was corrupted (so it said) too

edit: just tried it again
copied over all winmail files (both folders)
did a /scannow, it ended with an error that some files couldn't be repaired

I checked the log file but I don't see [date][time] Error [...] lines, except some error_not_found messages marked as [Info]
I don't see any winmail related not_found errors yet ...

I'm kinda not sure what I could do now
I bet it's fixable with not that much effort hmmm

edit2: and SP1 setup fails ...
2011-02-24 17:34:10, Error CBS Failed. Attempted to uninstall a version of a non-driver component that is not installed, version: 0X600011db04001, component: x86_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_585517a9869db81d, owner: Microsoft-Windows-Client-Features-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7600.16385.Microsoft-Windows-Client-Features-Update [HRESULT = 0x80004005 - E_FAIL]

edit3: I just replaced the winmail folders with the ones on the win7 dvd, same result
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