Windows Mail

grits · 26 May 2012

okeedokee, Thanks

endeavor · 26 May 2012

Setting up WM on Windows 8 is also possible, I have now worked out the details - and yes it does work.

I posted over in the EightForums how to do it: check it out

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Sammy888 · 28 May 2012

Slartybart said:

I'm fairly certain that "not junk mail" is a per item function. You either need to add the sender to your contacts, safe sender's list, or, as you said, build a rule.

I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.

endeavor said:

On the main WM GUI (not an email GUI) you go to the top tab of Tools> Junk E-mail Options> and in here you have many settings you can make - and so check all the many different settings within all tabs in there to see if anything is your problem. I personally have mine checkmarked on the first first tab and first selection which is to Turn it Off, but your needs may vary.

One of a number of caveats using WM on 7 is that you are not 'automatically' able to update the junk filter definitions anyway and so they are old as it is, nevertheless the original ones will still follow the mindset of its time period if you have it turned on. I personally just leave it on Off.

Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.

endeavor · 29 May 2012

Sammy888 said:

Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.

I recommend turning the Junk E-Mail settings Off.
I've never had an email go into anything but the inbox yet.
Go To:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> check circle "No Automatic Filtering;" also "uncheck both boxes in the Phishing tab too;" for the heck of it make sure "no boxes checked within the International tab within its two 'Blocked' lists tabs;" also "Blocked Senders tab being empty"... now see if those same emails are delivered into the inbox... ...they should, if not perhaps remove them for the other "Safe Senders" tab to see if that somehow even though backwards thinking, helps. Have I missed any settings to be sure its Off?

If you insist on using the Junk-Email with WM in 7, then experiment and try:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> ..and here checkmark Safe List Only, and put those particular people you're having trouble with in the Safe Senders tab and see what happens.

Has there been any other users that have had the Junk E-Mail being "Fully Functional" "with WM on 7" ?
(except for the updating of its filter definitions which we know of course that's history)

Slartybart · 29 May 2012

@Sammy888: I see that endeavor posted "turn off junk mail....." which should do the trick (stop sending mail to the junk folder). But it leaves you without that level of 'protection'.

I know that WLM is 'better' at junk mail in that it allows you to say "I trust this sender", but as I said before, I don't know if that carries forward to WinMail - even though the safe sender hooks are there.

Sammy888 said:

Slartybart said:

..... I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.

Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.

Are the senders in your address book?
If I recall correctly, people in your address book (contacts) are more trusted than those that are not. Even with a sendeer in my address book, I would still get eMail moved to the Junk folder if the Phishing filter saw something questionable - usually mail sent to a mailing list, or some other criteria defined in the filter. Having friends, family, and known senders (your bank, your newsletters, etc) in your address book helps limit the Junk filtering, it doesn't eliminate it.

The choice is yours, try adding the sender to your address book (Contacts) and see if that helps, or as endeavor suggests just turn off junk mail filtering. MS isn't offering updates to WinMail junk filtering any longer, so you're not going to get any improvement over what you have now in that regards.

Experiment with different settings until you're satisfied, you mentioned rules in a previous post, OR you move to another client.

Ex_Brit · 15 Jun 2012

Mark, how come I have to do a Google search on the Internet to find this? It doesn't appear to be linked in the forum search nor appear in the list of Tutorials 'W'. 'M' or 'H' for that matter.
Or I am going blind perhaps...LOL.

Slartybart · 18 Jun 2012

@Ex_Brit: Methinks you're going blind - lol

Seven Forums Search Windows Mail (1st result when I posted this)
Tutorial Index W (4th from the top when I posted this)

Of course something might have been fixed behind the scenes between your post and mine.

Ex_Brit · 18 Jun 2012

..Going blind...?? Been going there for years...LOL I could have sworn it failed to appear with under W or M or even in the Tute Index when I looked...but then these tired eyes are not what they used to be.

Thanks ;-)

I was referencing it in order to get WM to work in Windows 8 actually as I positively refuse to use their Mail App preferring the desktop view for all things....and it does work with an extra file added plus the fix posted elsewhere in these forums for making WM the default client.

You can probably tell from that I'm a diehard fan of Windows 8....not.

Slartybart · 18 Jun 2012

@Ex-Brit: They don't sell 5+ dollar store reading glasses, that's why you'll see (or maybe not) many typos in my posts - lol

Get in touch with endeavor, He's already done most of the work for WinMail on Win 8, but is reluctant to take ownership of a tutorial. I think he has it done, just needs someone to fine tune and "own". He helped me test the "unofficial tutorial" that I wrote.

edit: oops this post by endeavor was only a few posts back

vmcinab · 25 Jun 2012

Thank you so much for posting these instructions. I have been using WLM (which I despise) since I upgraded to Win7 from Vista, and have really missed Windows Mail.
I have followed all instructions in your article, and Windows Mail is up and running. The only problems are that accessing WinMail is not available on the Context Menu, and when I try to access WinMail from the IE9 Toolbar, I get the following message: "Default mail client is not properly installed".

This is what I have done so far:
- associated the .eml extension with Windows Mail (are there other files that need to be associated?)
- set and reset "Set Program Access and Computer Defaults" in both Custom and Microsoft sections a dozen times, but it won't hold. Windows Mail is still there, but the radio button won't stay checked. Also, WLM still appears on the Default Programs list, but not Windows Mail. I think this might be a Registry problem, but I can't find any instructions on the internet on how to fix it.

Can you help?

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