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  1. Posts : 2,066
    Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
       #1570

    Apparently Outlook 2010 can open its own *.msg files as well as saved *.eml files, so it's working normally: "Note: Outlook 2010 holds native support for opening eml-files and also does this by default..." Opening eml-files with Outlook | MSOutlook.info . Generally the advice on this forum about problems with Windows Mail on 7, especially after a Windows Update, is to go through the tutorial again.
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  2. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1571

    Hey kewl1,

    I'm a big advocate of having backups at all times whether it's the built in System Restore, or preferably complete partition image backup, and so if you have those options you could easily revert backwards to a working time period.

    Speaking of Office 2010 just a few weeks before your post I did a bench test install of a slipstreamed up to date Office 2010 SP2, testing only because I know at some point in order to use and/or keep up with the corporate environment I would have to move up from my preferred Office 2003 (that co-inhabits with WinMail just fine) to Office 2010 which would be my second choice. Anyway I could not see any problems when testing Office 2010 with Outlook while send & receiving a message with WinMail which I only sent one to make sure it was working, but I must admit I did not use SpellCheck on that particular test, or try to open separately saved .eml files on my drive like you did. I do not have that test setup saved for reference anymore though I'm sorry to say, however I plan to install Office 2010 permanent in the future.

    One thing I can say kewl1 if you install Office 2010 and when you open Outlook and it asks you if you want Outlook to be the default email client (if you want to use WinMail) then you must say No as I Always did, otherwise it will take over WinMail operations and then some. I'm not sure if re-running the tutorial process will solve your problem to correct default associations. I don't think you are going to get out of this that easy. Since WinMail is not a natural resident of Windows 7 trying to reverse default program operations with it's default program function or individual associations may not solve the problem, I believe it's much more than that. In order to say for sure anyone would have to duplicate the exact experience and be able to reverse it. Next time I give Office 2010 a spin because of your post I will remember to test and outline that function with WinMail, creating a reverse installation procedure if warranted.
    Last edited by endeavor; 15 Aug 2014 at 05:24. Reason: brevity
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  3. Posts : 2,066
    Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
       #1572

    For file associations use Control Panel>Default Programs>
    use the fourth option to set a default program and the second option to set default associations for specific file types (msg and eml) if you want to check/change the default program for one of those types.

    Redo the tutorial for the spell check (Win Mail crashing) problem.
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  4. Posts : 57
    Windows 7
       #1573

    Yonder Old Dell Laptop and Windows 7


    Yo Slartybart Bill- Since we chatted here I've had a chance to try that old Dell laptop with Windows 7 and I am happy, happy, happy with it. It is a Dell E1505 and originally came with XP Media Center Edition. I got a bigger hard drive, partitioned it into 2 partitions, did a fresh install of XP MCE on one partition and Win 7 on the other. I had over 200 updates to do on the XP MCE partition. Wow! It boots to the desktop in Win 7 in just about 45 seconds and is done running in about a minute. Not too shabby, I'd say.
    The Dell has an Intel Core Duo Processor T2500 at 2.0 GHz per core. It has a 7200 rpm SATA hard drive and 2 GBs of RAM- its maximum.
    I tried several ways to make a clone of the original drive, a 60GB drive, to the new 500GB drive, but every time the clone, or restoring an image, cut the capacity of 500GBs down to the size of the original, 60GBs. I had the techies of Acronis going out of their minds trying to figure out how to clone or restore the image without that happening, but it just would not work. I tried Macrium, too, but it did the same thing. From what I was told, they said the HPA partition is what caused that to happen. I even tried working with just the C partition, but nothing would work. I always lost the full size of the drive. Thus the fresh install of XP MCE. When I did that, then Win 7 was able to be installed along with MCE.
    I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this here, but I did it cuz the original statement about it possibly not working was posted here. Okay ya all?
    THE END
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  5. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1574

    Hey RK,

    I don't know why the Acronis techs you spoke with didn't refer you to their own article on how to resolve that HPA issue here:
    https://kb.acronis.com/content/1710

    That HPA issue has been around a while with them as you can see looking at the search titles here:
    https://forum.acronis.com/search/apa...s=type%3Aforum

    Also fwiw, another member solved it this way:
    https://forum.acronis.com/forum/33121#comment-102489

    At any rate doing a fresh install is a good thing too.
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  6. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #1575

    RKelly5327 said:
    Yo Slartybart Bill

    - Since we chatted here I've had a chance to try that old Dell laptop with Windows 7 and I am happy, happy, happy with it. It is a Dell E1505 and originally came with XP Media Center Edition.

    I got a bigger hard drive, partitioned it into 2 partitions, did a fresh install of XP MCE on one partition and Win 7 on the other. I had over 200 updates to do on the XP MCE partition. Wow! It boots to the desktop in Win 7 in just about 45 seconds and is done running in about a minute. Not too shabby, I'd say.

    The Dell has an Intel Core Duo Processor T2500 at 2.0 GHz per core. It has a 7200 rpm SATA hard drive and 2 GBs of RAM- its maximum.

    I tried several ways to make a clone of the original drive, a 60GB drive, to the new 500GB drive, but every time the clone, or restoring an image, cut the capacity of 500GBs down to the size of the original, 60GBs. I had the techies of Acronis going out of their minds trying to figure out how to clone or restore the image without that happening, but it just would not work. I tried Macrium, too, but it did the same thing. From what I was told, they said the HPA partition is what caused that to happen. I even tried working with just the C partition, but nothing would work. I always lost the full size of the drive. Thus the fresh install of XP MCE. When I did that, then Win 7 was able to be installed along with MCE.

    I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this here, but I did it cuz the original statement about it possibly not working was posted here.

    Okay ya all?

    THE END
    I was on holiday for August and came back to a full plate - I guess I'll never fully retire!

    I had to refresh my memory about "our chat" and the only thing I recall was the memory (pun intended). Win7 likes more than 2 GB, but it does run as you obviously discovered.

    I think the clean install you did was the better way to go anyway - the imaging software should have been able to slice and dice the data/partitions, but why bang your head against the wall too many times. Now I have to go lookup what an HPA partition is - lol.

    Host (or Hidden) Protected Area: found a few pages that might help some else (I read a few paragraphs)
    HPA Problems When Upgrading Hard Disk
    Host protected area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Hidden Protected Area - ThinkWiki

    Your post was on topic even if it strayed a bit - but we all learn from others.

    Get in trouble for posting something that might help another member - never!

    Bill
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  7. Posts : 313
    Vista/Win7/8/10/11 (x86/x64)
    Thread Starter
       #1576

    Just a tidbit to mention about our beloved WinMail program, I find it very interesting when installing and testing the new Windows 10 Technical Preview today, that the WinMail folder...just like it was in Windows 7 & Windows 8, is in Windows 10 too! ...and so of course I decided to install WinMail the same way as I did in Windows 8 into Windows 10 too, and sure enough it works! as you can see by my first opening of WinMail on Windows 10 my screenshot of it Here

    No I'm not going to take up room in this thread talking about it here. You can read how to do it over at the EightForums WinMail thread Here ..if you want to. Naturally, just like on my Windows 8 where I use WinMail, and also for sure if I ever decide someday when Windows 10 becomes a final version, I will use WinMail on that too <vbg>

    In the meantime I personally like and use Windows 7 better and more often than Windows 8 but I can see already that I will like Windows 10 better than 8... is just my humble opinion, and of course you all have your favorites too... all of which changes for us as time marches forward.

    Long Live Windows Mail !





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  8. Posts : 198
    Win 7 Pro 32bit
       #1577

    hi,

    i'm not getting the correct cmd prompt, i'm always getting a user cmd prompt, like

    C:\User\Name>

    even after running cmd as admin

    any ideas?

    cheers
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  9. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #1578

    Two things you can try
    • Create a new Admin account and see if you can launch and elevated command prompt from the profile.

    • Make sure that UAC is the default level
      Windows Mail-capture.png
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  10. Posts : 198
    Win 7 Pro 32bit
       #1579

    Slartybart said:
    Two things you can try
    • Create a new Admin account and see if you can launch and elevated command prompt from the profile.

    • Make sure that UAC is the default level
      Windows Mail-capture.png
    cheers,

    i managed to get it going, first try, after a reboot, it didn't work, had to do it all again, but with the same C:\users\name>downloads.......
    and it worked

    i do have the UAC at the lowest, for installing all the programs, as i've just wiped xp off and installed win 7
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