Windows Mail

endeavor · 11 Mar 2018

If done correctly from your latest sources, it works every time and I've personally done it more times than I can count. If it helps you can link some screenshots showing what you are doing, just like that person did there, which in the process revealed where his problem was. Take your time to figure it out.

I've also linked the wmutil151.zip on the WinMail Bug List page, read down till you find Windows Mail Utilities. It may also be good for you to know the other information on this post.

erwwwed43 · 12 Mar 2018

Progress report = No progress!

Started over completely today. Backed up Reserved and C: partition as an image. Separately copied User\..\..\etc\Windows Mail folder to separate location on my external BU HD. Backed up registry entry for Windows Mail also. Did same with C:\Program Files\Windows Mail.

Re-cloned HD again. All programs that I tested on new HD worked; i.e.browser, MS Office, other items. Deleted cloned version of User\..\..\etc\Windows Mail. Copied User\..\..\etc\Windows Mail from BU to new HD. Merged registry BU.

Started Windows Mail. Same as before. Cannot recover msgstore. Program during this startup process deletes the MsgStore that exists under User\..\..\etc\Windows Mail. Also deletes the .pat file, both .jrs files. Makes a new folder showing the current date and a random number as the folder name. Folder is empty.

Redid all copies. This pass also deleted Windows Mail folder under Program Files, replaced same with the BU version. Still no joy. Also used winutil151.exe, no help.

Am now back on the original HD; all is well.

erwwwed43 · 12 Mar 2018

When I have some time in the next few days, I will put the new HD back in, and see if there are entries in the CBS log. I have fixed some problems before by crawling thru that log. Or else Event Logs.

i do know that if i run sfc /scannow and files get 'fixed', i have to replace the files in C:\Program Files\Windows Mail because sfc does not like the .dll that Win Mail uses. Don't seem to recall this being mentioned in the WinMail Bug List mentioned above.

kewl1 · 28 Apr 2018

Thaks to this wonderful forum I have been using Windows (Vista) Mail in Windows 7 on many computers ever since win 7 came out. I am experiencing a problem that I have never had before. I had to restore Windows Mail from a Norton Ghost backup in March. Now, every time I open Windows Mail I am getting more and more of these empty folders appearing. They have names like "recovered, imported, local" have to keep deleting them. Has anyone ever had this problem and does anyone know how to get rid of it?

I am uploading a jpg of the folders in question. Hopefully, I am doing it properly

endeavor · 29 Apr 2018

Hello kewl1,

Yes I have seen that issue before a few times, on my own setup over the years.

The way I always fixed it, was to perform the Backup/Restore process that is outlined on the Errata (Bug List) page linked on Post 1, that of course fixes it every single time, as long as your backup does not have that same condition, then when you restore it the problem will be gone. The only downside, is that any emails (or newsgroup posts) that were downloaded since the last dated time of your backup, will be missing. I never go a few weeks without creating a backup and so was never a big deal for me. I see yours was back in March so that's not too bad; but again, as long as that condition did not exist in your backup. I don't think you'll need to restore the reg in this case, but, you should always have a backup (export) copy of it saved for good reason anyway!

About your Norton Ghost - are you saying you made a partition image backup using it, and if so can you recover just individual folders out of it? If yes, then you want to separately copy the folder:
C:\Users\Win7\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail
..out of it, and following the instructions on the Backup/Restore procedure, you will Delete your current folder (or cut/paste it somewhere else for possible future reference is a better idea) ..but when it's removed, then copy/paste your Ghost copy of it to its exact place. (Do NOT copy one over the other!) That should do it. Read the notes carefully to understand, once you do, proceed. WinMail.exe is of course should Not be running while you do this.

It's possible the utility WMUtil that is attached on the bug list page, might help; I don't think so, but you can try it.

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kewl1 · 01 May 2018

Hi endeavor,

Thanks very much. Nice to see you still here after all these years. Sorry for the slow reply. I used to get an email when there was a reply in this forum. I changed my email two months ago and maybe forgot to change it in here. I will try what you suggested for sure.

Yes, I can restore individual files. In this case, I think I restored one or more folders so perhaps that was the problem.

andjayik · 24 Sep 2019

Can we export emails into win10 if we were using Windows mail?

endeavor · 25 Sep 2019

andjayik said:

Can we export emails into win10 if we were using Windows mail?

Hello andjayik,

If you re-instate WinMail onto Win10 then yes you can bring your Win7 WinMail emails with you, but only for WinMail, but No you cannot transfer WM emails into the Win10 stock Mail Client.

Understand though WinMail on Win10 is much more complicated to setup than how it is in Windows 7, and is for advanced users only.

Any other Win8 or Win10 WinMail questions, please post there, thank you
How to Reinstate WinMail onto Windows 8 or Windows 10

andjayik · 25 Sep 2019

Was talking about transfering emails from windows mail to the windows 10 email client?

endeavor · 26 Sep 2019

andjayik said:

Was talking about transferring emails from windows mail to the windows 10 email client?

I don't have much experience with the built-in Mail Client of Win10, I've only used it twice and have no use for it really, since my only focus in these forums is on the Vista Windows Mail (aka WinMail) ..and keeping up with re-instating that forward on Win7/Win8/Win10/Server (x86/x64)

However, as far as I know and have heard from everyone wanting to, the built-in stock on-board Windows 10 Mail Client (Not Windows Mail) ..does not allow for the normal importing of emails or contacts from earlier MS built-in eMail programs. It's hard to imagine MS would not have an easy way for their previous OE/WM/WLM users to do that, but I've never researched it further, and have no interest, or need really.

There is a sort-of a round-a-bout way to do it a little bit, but I've never had the reason to try it yet.
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