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how do we get rid of the the windows mail splash screen?
Thanks PB tried all that once again. No problem eliminating the old folders or installing the new folders but it just doesn't work. I have noticed that there are no file associations for .dll files is this part of the problem? I suppose I shall just have to learn to live with Thunderbird!
Yes, I do think it's wise to revert back to the original way of adding Windows mail to Windows 7. Question: Are you saying that deleting the original Windows 7 Windows Mail folder will help/fix the Win Updates problem? About the Win 7 WinMail.exe attributes, it has/had two attributes, System and Hidden. The -s -h switches will just remove those attributes allowing the original WinMail.exe to be visible within the Windows Mail folder.
To GregS re:Re updates problem, when I donwloaded latest updates for Win7 on one occasion, it borked WinMail. I never uninstalled the updates, but simply deleted the whole WinMail folder and replaced it with a virgin copy, and WinMail has worked fine ever since, despite downloading later updates.Yes, I do think it's wise to revert back to the original way of adding Windows mail to Windows 7. Question: Are you saying that deleting the original Windows 7 Windows Mail folder will help/fix the Win Updates problem? About the Win 7 WinMail.exe attributes, it has/had two attributes, System and Hidden. The -s -h switches will just remove those attributes allowing the original WinMail.exe to be visible within the Windows Mail folder.
Don't know the dynamics of why, but presume the early updates either modified or replaced some of the WinMail files. However, if the updates are left installed, and WinMail replaced, I presume the updater engine reads the earlier updates as being installed and not needed. A bit like a post I once read on borking WGA validation files, by modifying them but not removing. Updater engine sees them installed but not modified and does not replace them; the end result being they're there but don't work.
That's top shelf work re the attributes being removed. How the heck did you work that out? Have you done some programming work?
I don't really know what a switch is, but I've read about them when I've attempted repairs by editing BCD to restore boot files for one of my installed operating systems. I've got 4 partitions on my PC, with WinXP Pro, Vista ultimate, Win7 & a storage partition.
I deliberately deleted the boot files for Vista to simulate a live boot crash, to see if I could add them back using EasyBCD. Trying to work out the correct switches and syntax for commands was a nightmare. I got as far as being able to identify and re-name and remove entries, but in the end gave up trying to add the boot entry for Vista back, and resorted to EasyBCD boot modification program.
EasyBCD is a really simple freeware boot editor for changing boot entry names, order of appearance in the boot menu at start-up, and resetting time of delay, etc. However, this also failed to restore the missing boot files, and I eventually had to get it back by booting off the Vista installation disc, and running the "repair boot" option which appears prior to installing.
Under some circumstances this boot repair works, but not always. Other times I've had to do a bare bones full installation just to get the boot back, then load an Acronis full partition back up image onto the partition, once the boot is restored.
By the way, tried a trial version of Eaz-Fix Pro, but it stopped my Vista installation booting up. Typical of me, I read the notes on Eaz-Fix afer I'd installed it, and saw it is not compatible with multiple boot systems on the same hard drive.
I think I'm gettin off the topic of this thread a little. Probably get busted by Mr. Grim if I'm not careful.
Cheers PB
To re mccarthy re:Unfortunately there's not really much more I can tell you that's not in the Techspot guide I referred you to in an earlier post.Thanks PB tried all that once again. No problem eliminating the old folders or installing the new folders but it just doesn't work. I have noticed that there are no file associations for .dll files is this part of the problem? I suppose I shall just have to learn to live with Thunderbird!
I'm running a 32 bit version of Win7 and .dll files are shown in File Associations as "Application extension - Unknown application" and are not associated with any program, so I don't think that's the problem. Click to open image below to show file association - its the middle entry.
As a check point, before you deleted the old Windows Mail folder and files, did you enable hidden files to be viewed, and un-tick "Hide extensions for known file types" & "Hide protected operating system files" by going to Tools/Folder Options/View in the task bar at the top of any folder? Otherwise you may have missed deleting any hidden or protected Windows Mail files.
As a last resort I'd try completely un-installing Thunderbird using Control Panel/Programs, and all Windows Mail so there are no possible conflicts. Then install a virgin copy of Windows Mail from Vista, again allowing all hidden files etc to be viewed.
Finally, are you copying a 64 or 32 bit version of Vista Windows Mail? And putting it in the correct Program files? 64 bit goes into "Program files"; 32 bit goes into "x86 Program files". If you click the image shown below, it will expand to show you where the appropriate program files are found in the "C" drive.
If you're doing all of this, can't understand why it won't initialize. As I said to you in an earlier reply, Meriu had the same problem using a 64 bit installation of Win7, but it worked after he put the Vista WinMail in the correct program files.
Cheers PB.
Last edited by poppa bear; 14 Jan 2010 at 14:34.
Command line switches goes back to my early days of DOS. Eaz-Fix does work with Multi boot, same drive different partitions. That's the way I use it. I Multi boot XP and Win 7. When installing, check the custom installation, select Multi boot, install it, restart OS booting into your other OS, install with custom setup only this time check the box that says this is multiboot but I have already installed in the other OS.
If you want something like Eaz-Fix but for free, Get Comodo Time Machine. Data Recovery with Comodo Time Machine | Comodo It's free and probably better than Eaz-Fix. I just use Eaz-Fix because it comes with a bonus of Drive Image for backup, and Boot media maker for restoring images. It's the only Imaging software that has ever worked for me. And yes I have tried all the others paid and non paid.
Also if you do decide to go with Eaz-Fix, I found another one of their partners that sell it for 45 instead of 49.
To GregS re:Thanks Greg. I'll give Eaz-Fix another go, using the installation you've suggested, but probably go for Comodo Time Machine for free as I've already got Acronis for back-up partition image, and I'm very happy with it's performance. Especially if you want to clone one HD onto a new one. Also can be set to auto update your partition image if saved to storage folder, or manually update image on a R/RW DVD. Also I've done mega reloads, and neve had a faulty one yet.Command line switches goes back to my early days of DOS. Eaz-Fix does work with Multi boot, same drive different partitions. That's the way I use it. I Multi boot XP and Win 7. When installing, check the custom installation, select Multi boot, install it, restart OS booting into your other OS, install with custom setup only this time check the box that says this is multiboot but I have already installed in the other OS.
If you want something like Eaz-Fix but for free, Get Comodo Time Machine. Data Recovery with Comodo Time Machine | Comodo It's free and probably better than Eaz-Fix. I just use Eaz-Fix because it comes with a bonus of Drive Image for backup, and Boot media maker for restoring images. It's the only Imaging software that has ever worked for me. And yes I have tried all the others paid and non paid.
Also if you do decide to go with Eaz-Fix, I found another one of their partners that sell it for 45 instead of 49.
Hell, it's 4am here in Perth West Aussie, so gotta catch some zzzzzzzzs! Later dude, Cheers PB
To ExBrit re:Hey ExBrit, that's brilliant. Worked a treat. Have never done a new DWORD before and didn't know what that meant or how to do it.Click on the start button and type in regedit and hit Enter.
Navigate through HKEY_CURRENT_USER, Software, Microsoft and Windows Mail.
Create a new DWORD called NoSplash.
Set the value of NoSplash to 1.
Exit Registry Editor.
Anyway, tried right clicking Windows Mail and found the option, and once it was created and named, right clicked new DWORD, then clicked Modify to reset the value to 1.
I've also used it in Windows Mail in Vista, which always took yonks to open. Now opens in about a quarter of the time.
Keep up the good work. Cheers PB
To GregS re:Yep, you were dead right Greg. I thought you only had to instal it in one operating system and it would auto pick up the others.Eaz-Fix does work with Multi boot, same drive different partitions. That's the way I use it. I Multi boot XP and Win 7. When installing, check the custom installation, select Multi boot, install it, restart OS booting into your other OS, install with custom setup only this time check the box that says this is multiboot but I have already installed in the other OS.
Did exactly as you said and it worked a treat. Decided to go with Comodo. It seems to do everything that Eaz Fix does, except create a back-up image of the whole partition if you need to format your hard drive for any reason. But I've already got Acronis to do that.
I think it will be brilliant when doing a fresh installation. Just periodically create snapshots during installation, and if anything honks up your sytem, just go back to the previous snapshot stage. Then at the end delete all the snapshots used along the way.
I once spent hours re-loading WinXP for a friend, and had it about 90% finished, when I installed Adobe Reader and for some reason it conflicted and wrecked the whole installation. I had previously turned off Windows Restore because I wanted to save hard drive space. Eaz Fix or Comodo would have been brilliant, and it doesn't take up anything like the space used by Windows Restore which really bloats your system.
Thanks again Greg, I'm really grateful. Great program. Cheers PB