Windows Mail

poppa bear said:

I've completely re-written my Techspot Guide based on all the various things you have worked out. If I'm not imposing on you, I'd be very grateful if you could check out my guide to see if it seems OK.

Cheers PB

How to enable Windows Mail app to operate in Windows 7 - TechSpot OpenBoards
It worked for me. I would say that you've really shortened the process and eliminated the gotchas of msoe.dll being replaced. I'm happy with it. Prior to this WinMail thingy, I was using Gmail Notifier Plus and Gmail Notifier, not the official Google one but from someone else. Each one had features that I liked. GNP, made use of the jumplists but even though you were logged in to Gamil, clicking a jumplist item sent you to Gmail Login. It also wouldn't show the mail count on the taskbar icon if one was using the smaller taskbar. GN, didn't make use of the jumplist but wanted to poll the server every 2 minutes and was unchangeable. Long story short, WinMail.exe is set to startup minimized and warns in my task tray with an icon when new mail is present and that's good enough for me.

To GregS re:

How to enable Windows Mail app to operate in Windows 7 - TechSpot OpenBoards
It worked for me. I would say that you've really shortened the process and eliminated the gotchas of msoe.dll being replaced. I'm happy with it. Prior to this WinMail thingy, I was using Gmail Notifier Plus and Gmail Notifier, not the official Google one but from someone else. Each one had features that I liked. GNP, made use of the jumplists but even though you were logged in to Gamil, clicking a jumplist item sent you to Gmail Login. It also wouldn't show the mail count on the taskbar icon if one was using the smaller taskbar. GN, didn't make use of the jumplist but wanted to poll the server every 2 minutes and was unchangeable. Long story short, WinMail.exe is set to startup minimized and warns in my task tray with an icon when new mail is present and that's good enough for me.

Hey Greg, mega thanks for all your help. You were really the driving force behind the edit of my guide. I wouldn't have even known where to start to do the regedits that you came up with. I hereby confer the official title on you of: "Master Tinkerer"! I'll be happy to settle for "Apprentice Tinkerer" for myself. LOL!

I think the guide is a lot less cluttered now, and certainly more functional in removing the bugs of msoe.dll as you say. Also combining the 2 WinMail.reg files, removal of the reg key, and disable splash screen all into one click is great. Plus there's the bonus not in original guide of adding WinCalendar and making it operational in WinMail with one click of the regedit file you sourced out. All good.

To cover all bases I did a virgin install of Win7; installed then un-installed WinLiveMail; and followed the steps of guide. Surprisingly, "Take Ownership" worked on msoe.dll in a bare bones installation of Win7. All the links worked, and WinMail.exe ran flawless at the end with .eml files auto opening on desktop. And not even necessary to manually make WinMail default, since when it's first run the prompt offers to make it default.

Last but not least, Junk Filter works without adding OEMSpamFilter files. And running MRT via Run box caused no problems.

And so there ends the workshop. Great effort on your part. Been a pleasure working with you.

Cheers Bernie (PB)

poppa bear said:

To cover all bases I did a virgin install of Win7; installed then un-installed WinLiveMail; and followed the steps of guide. Surprisingly, "Take Ownership" worked on msoe.dll in a bare bones installation of Win7.
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And so there ends the workshop. Great effort on your part. Been a pleasure working with you.

Cheers Bernie (PB)

Same here, I enjoyed it! As to the "Take Ownership", It works perfect for files but does not for Folders. I think it may have something to do with my UAC settings which are at the highest possible level and SRP with the same level of protection, meaning full deny for all with no exclusions other than .lnk. Well I do have a few apps with allow rules.

Hi,

As a system builder i'm fed up of having to install Windows Mail on Windows 7.

So many people want it installed, people have said to me "I don't want Win7 if it doesn't come with Windows Mail.

So i've created an installer for myself to speed things up and here it is.

http://www.welcomecomputing.co.uk/do...WinMailFix.exe

Save to desktop, right click > Run As Administrator.

It will install WinMail on 32bit and 64bit Windows 7 computers.

Uncheck the box that asked you if you want Windows Mail to check if its your default mail client!!!!!!

Mark

Mark,

There are 30 pages of blogs here describing all kinds of issues with trying to get the Windows Mail to run correctly. Can you go into some detail on what we can expect from your installer. Issues I have run into with Windows Mail include not being able to make it the default, not being able to access mail using Internet Explorer email link, help menu not working. I finally got tired of the problems and installed Thunderbird.

This installer will install Windows Mail on 32bit and 64bit computers!

You can't make it your default mailing client if its the only mailing client installed, uncheck the box that asks you if you want Windows Mail to check if its the default mailing client. Problem sorted!

Unless of course somebody can let me have the registry information required to achieve this then i,ll add it to the installer.

It does allow you to click on a mailing link in Internet explorer and it will open a new email using Windows Mail.

This installer will not be perfect "It is not a Microsoft Installer".

Help menu will not work, this is for people that are already using or used to using Windows Mail and Outlook Express.

If somebody knows where the Help Files are and the registry information required to make these files usable i'll add them to my fix I personally have never needed them!

Don't anybody that understands any Microsoft Help files and tutorials anyway.........I Don't!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Installer contains the 32bit and the 64bit Windows Mail files taken from WinVista, they are unzipped to the location C:\WinMailFix\cab files\**bit.cab

Mark

Having researched for help files for Windows Mail i discover that in Windows Vista the windows Mail help information is integrated into a much larger generic help source file.

The Windows Mail help info has been stripped out of this larger help resource for Wiun7 and therefore not available in Win7.

To move over this much larger help file would overwrite the Win7 help file and you will loose all the win7 information because you would be using a WinVista help file.

This isn't going to happen, so if you require help with WinMail on Win7 look online for help with Windows Mail as if you are using WinVista.

akwexavante said:

Having researched for help files for Windows Mail i discover that in Windows Vista the windows Mail help information is integrated into a much larger generic help source file.

The Windows Mail help info has been stripped out of this larger help resource for Wiun7 and therefore not available in Win7.

To move over this much larger help file would overwrite the Win7 help file and you will loose all the win7 information because you would be using a WinVista help file.

This isn't going to happen, so if you require help with WinMail on Win7 look online for help with Windows Mail as if you are using WinVista.

I've already mentioned this earlier. Even if you delete the Win 7 Win Mail help file and replace it with the one from Vista, it will not work.

To GregS re:

Same here, I enjoyed it! As to the "Take Ownership", It works perfect for files but does not for Folders. I think it may have something to do with my UAC settings which are at the highest possible level and SRP with the same level of protection, meaning full deny for all with no exclusions other than .lnk. Well I do have a few apps with allow rules.

Howdy Greg. Haven't been online for awhile as busy with life issues, like paying bills, food shopping, cooking and all those other unimportant, trivial matters... LOL! Sorry for being a bit slow in the uptake, but if you have a free minute, could you explain to me what UAC and SRO stands for, where they're located and how to set them at different security levels.

Re:

WinMail.exe is set to startup minimized and warns in my task tray with an icon when new mail is present and that's good enough for me.

Could you also please point out where you go to in WinMail to set this option?

After all our hard work, Akwexavante's installer, (back one page), will probably make my Guide redundant! In fairness to anyone reading my post, to make it more user friendly, I should really refer them to his installer link. I'll also be interested to test it and see if it has any issues with other mail programs installed like WinLiveMail, or with running sfc /scannow or MRT.

Even if it does replace it, it's been a really educational experience working out the various registry issues, and I've learned heaps from you. But even if nothing else had come out of it, I learned how to disable the WinMail splash screen.

Cheers PB