Windows Mail

roncerr said:

poppa bear said:

Modified Method to Enable Windows Mail in Windows 7

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

Came here since there are no Windows 7 newsgroups and am trying to revert back to Windows Mail. Tried WLM but the IMAP folder display sucks (esp. the "download" button). Contacts suck even more with the 3 locations: web, contacts folder, and WLM local contacts folder. Also the constant reminder to "sigh in" to hotmail to see my contacts that are on line but not the local ones.

One thing that wories me is the start of your procedure calls for running an extensive registry edit file. But what if I have to stop using it due to M$ sabotage or something else unforseen. There is no "undo" registry file. Will that matter if I need to revert back to doing a clean install of WLM or some other emal program?

Basically that registry edit allows .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

It relates only to the registry issues specific to the import of the Vista msoe.dll file, except for the removal of the WinMail.exe splash screen which is irrevelant to WinLiveMail. It will not affect the installation of Windows Live Mail as a revert back as all the other original Windows 7 files in the Windows Mail folder have remained unchanged.

I have run the registry edit as part of installing Windows Mail in both 32 & 64bit Windows 7 OSs when Windows Live Mail was already installed. And also installed Windows Live Mail when Windows Mail was already installed; which meant the regedit had already been run. Both systems ran concurrently without any problems, although in some environments it may be necessary to remove Windows Live Mail before Windows Mail will run, but not the other way round.

Also the modified method of installing WinMail means the system is not affected by running System File Check to restore corrupted Windows files; nor by Microsoft updates.

Cheers pB

Just updated my Dell Inspiron 1525 from Vista to Windows 7. I already had the Windows Mail on my Win7 netbook via the tutorial here. A simple copy and paste of the Windows Mail folder from the netbook to the new install and then running the WinMailEdit.zip from the first page of the tutorial was all that was needed. I was checking my mail in less than 5 minutes. Thanks to all for the hard work.

I had all of the issues described in the postings on my original install. Security, ownership, default mail, the works. I kept following this board and continued applying the fixes until it was completely debugged except for the help files and the junk mail filter issues that we all know about. The question popped into my head as to why the simple copy and paste and then applying the WinMailEdit.zip is all that I needed to get a fully functioning install on another machine. Is it possible that because it was a copy and paste of the entire windows mail folder that had already been debugged made for a clean install on the 2nd machine with only the WinMailEdit.zip having to be applied or did I just get lucky??? Seems to me it would make life much easier if a .zip file could be created that contained the entire Windows Mail folder, the WinMailEdit.zip and the Winmail.exe shortcut so people could use a drag and drop to their desktop. I don't want to complicate the issue but have I stumbled upon an easier way to do the install? I will be more than happy to forward my Windows Mail folder to anyone who might want to test my theory.

8mick823 said:

The question popped into my head as to why the simple copy and paste and then applying the WinMailEdit.zip is all that I needed to get a fully functioning install on another machine. Is it possible that because it was a copy and paste of the entire windows mail folder that had already been debugged made for a clean install on the 2nd machine with only the WinMailEdit.zip having to be applied or did I just get lucky??? .

If the folder you copied from already had the Vista msoe.dll, the answer/fix would be WinMailEdit.zip. In other words, you've done nothing more or less to the new pc than you did to the one you're copying from.

Greg,

I understand. If I can copy and paste a fully functioning Windows Mail folder from one PC and copy to another PC and have it function properly by only applying the WinMailEdit.zip why couldn't somebody seeking to install the Windows Mail program do a copy and paste of my fully functioning Windows Mail Folder, apply the WinMailEdit.zip and be on their way? No ownership issues to deal with, no registry edits, no attribute changes, etc. Procedure would be:

Download and copy entire Windows mail folder from this site(i.e. WindowsMailFolder.zip)
Apply WinMailEdit.zip
Done.

Seems a lot easier to me, especially for people who might get intimidated with the regedits, attributes, and take ownership required now. The only thing I can think of might be legal issues of posting the actual Windows Mail files on the site. One of the site owners would have to make the call on that issue.

8mick823 said:

Greg,
...No ownership issues to deal with, no registry edits, no attribute changes, etc...

...Download and copy entire Windows mail folder from this site(i.e. WindowsMailFolder.zip)
Apply WinMailEdit.zip...

...legal issues...

Before I discovered post #317 (Poppa Bear) I tried to move the original Win7 folder somewhere else for safe keeping before copying Vista's folder. That's where I had to "take ownership", although I did it the the manual way (not with a .reg file). Are you saying the copy/paste method just works without taking ownership of the Win7 folder that is being replaced?

The instructions say to do the Winmailedit.reg first, even before the Takeownership.reg. Before I discovered this post #317, I had already taken ownership manually (w/o regedit). Is it ok to run Winmailedit second (after the manual take ownership)? If not, do I need to give ownership back temporarily? If so, would that be to SYSTEM?

8mick823 said:

...Is there something unique about my Windows Mail install that bypasses the ownership issues or is this something that anybody could repeat from their own install to a second PC following the procedure I just described?

Good question. As you can see from my previous post I'm in the same situation in that I have already taken ownership so I won't be able to test it unless someone tells me how to restore Win7 to its original ownership status manually (w/o running the .reg file or using regit). The "Remove Take Ownership" file only undoes what the "Take Ownership" did (and which we did not use) so it may not help either one of us start over in order to test your theory.

I tried to follow Poppa Bears' directions, but somewhere in that "do-this", "but wait, not yet" rather convoluted algorithm I must have gone astray or my old eyes missed something. When got to the end and tried RUNNING the WinMail Shortcut, my system locked up BIG TIME (constant hour glass and NOTHING would close). I had to do a hard shut down using the power switch - Even the xKill and CNTRL+ALT+Delete would not work and the taskmaster would not close (a frequent problem seen in a lot of apps with this new Win7!). I couldn't even get the damn thing into safe mode. It'd just load the drivers and then sit on "please wait" forever!

After a half dozen attempts I finally got in to Task manager and found morethan 40 "winmail.exe" files running in PROCESSES. I managed to back out and get both the reg and X86 WINMAIL folders from the PROGRAM FILES folders-quarantined on to another drive and I'm back to Windows Live Mail --- so far. At this point I have no idea which msoe.dll file is old, or new, or 32X or 64X; it's all a big mess now.

I REALLY hate Windows LIVE mail because I have 7 mail accounts and dealing with over 42 mail boxes is a real PAIN. And having to go hunt thru all 7 junk folders to see what it might have mislabeled is a chore for my old eyes and then some.

Can Poppa Bear, or anyone, help me out of this mess? BTW, there was NO registry entry as described in directions. No such registry entry exist on my machine so that thru me off the track right there. What do I do?

This is a HP DV9500 laptop running (two weeks ago) Vista SP2 64X and I "upgraded" to Windows 7. I am beginning to think that the upgrade (versus a clean wipe and a fresh new OS) was a bad idea. I've had nothing but slow responses, whiteout screens, lock ups and blue screen crashes ever since I did the "upgrade". Definitely NOT an improvement! Suggestions? Help?

The software history on this machine may help: it originally came with XP home basic, then I went yo Vista 43 home premium, then to Ultimate Vista 32, then upgraded to Vista SP2 X64 and just last week I upgraded again to Windows 7 Ultimate X64. I think that instead of solving problems, I just compounded them and brought them along with me.

I would appreciate any help on the immediate problem of the WinMail versus WinLiveMail and any ideas or suggestion on the over all poor performance of the OS.

I have an Intel T7500 chip set @ 2.2 Ghz and 4 GB RAM with 1.5 TB drive space.

Thank you,

Bob