Windows Mail

steelgtr · 13 May 2010

If I originally did the "take ownership", do I have to do it again if just replacing the x64 file?

It's been a while since I did this on my folks system and it's a bit of a drive going up there!

thx

bob

Brink · 13 May 2010

Tutorial updated with new 32-bit and 64-bit Vista msoe.dll files. :)

myself · 13 May 2010

Brink said:

Tutorial updated with new 32-bit and 64-bit Vista msoe.dll files. :)

Thank you very much! Had a problem since the last Windows Updates, WM didn't start at all (although in taskmanager winmail was active, WM didn't show up).
Installing the newest msoe.dll fixed the problem!

poppa bear · 13 May 2010

steelgtr said:

If I originally did the "take ownership", do I have to do it again if just replacing the x64 file?

It's been a while since I did this on my folks system and it's a bit of a drive going up there!

thx

bob

In four cases I've personally dealt with, it was necessary to Take Onwership again. I suspect this is because once the imported Vista msoe.dll file is amended by the KB update, it then becomes a protected Windows file.

On one HP laptop I did for a friend, after a clean installation of 64bit Windows 7, the "Take Ownership" regedit wouldn't work. Neither did the "Run command" in Step 2 to remove attributes and make the WinMail.exe file visible. Consequently it was necessary to use:

1. Footnote 1 of the tutorial to take full control manually of the msoe.dll file.

2. Footnote 4 of the tutorial to make WinMail.exe visible manually.

These two problems seem fairly common in laptops, and HP ones in particular.

Also, the updated msoe.dll file was loaded first, and then the Microsoft update downloaded. Unfortunately this borked the msoe.dll file and it was necessary to reload the updated msoe.dll file again.

Therefore, on a new installation, always get the Microsoft updates first, then do the tutorial steps.

Cheers PB

fastexpert · 14 May 2010

NoN said:

Ex_Brit said:

Someone on another forum suggested that OEspamfilter.dat should also be copied across from an up to date Vista...something to with the Junk Filter...?

There's nothing technical to paste the OESpamFilter.dat....just do it!
Since the OESpamFilter.dll should exist in both folder.....
It is just a recommendation to filter your mails

Do you have got the junk mail filter to work? I have not got it to run in Windows 7. Even not if I copy the files "OESpamFilter.dat" and "OESpamFilter.dll" from Vista into folder "C:\Programs\Windows Mail" of Windows 7.

poppa bear · 14 May 2010

fastexpert said:

NoN said:

Ex_Brit said:

Someone on another forum suggested that OEspamfilter.dat should also be copied across from an up to date Vista...something to with the Junk Filter...?

There's nothing technical to paste the OESpamFilter.dat....just do it!
Since the OESpamFilter.dll should exist in both folder.....
It is just a recommendation to filter your mails

Do you have got the junk mail filter to work? I have not got it to run in Windows 7. Even not if I copy the files "OESpamFilter.dat" and "OESpamFilter.dll" from Vista into folder "C:\Programs\Windows Mail" of Windows 7.

To the best of my knowledge no one has been able to get it to work.

PB

Ex_Brit · 14 May 2010

poppa bear said:

To the best of my knowledge no one has been able to get it to work.

PB

I got it work OK by applying a rule that if the from line does not contain any of my addresses in my contact list then move it to the Junk E-Mail folder and it works, but without a rule, you are right, it doesn't work.

poppa bear · 14 May 2010

Ex_Brit said:

poppa bear said:

To the best of my knowledge no one has been able to get it to work.

PB

I got it work OK by applying a rule that if the from line does not contain any of my addresses in my contact list then move it to the Junk E-Mail folder and it works, but without a rule, you are right, it doesn't work.

Hey Ex_Brit that's a real handy tip. Can you tell me exactly how to go about using the "from line" command?

Cheers PB

Ex_Brit · 14 May 2010

Hmmm, now let me see....

Tools/Message Rules/Mail

Section 1: Check "Where the from line contains people"

Section 3: Click "Contains People"

Click Contacts - your contact list comes up. Highlight the first one and then holding down the Shift key scroll down using your down arrow to highlight them all.

Add them to the right column by clicking the "From" button.

Click OK

(You may get an error if you have contacts without an email address as it will only add ones with one. That's OK)

Now click the "Options" button.

In section 1: Click the 2nd option: "Message does NOT contain the people below"

Click OK and OK again and you should now be back to original message rule window.

Section 2: Select "Move it to the specified folder"

Section 3: Scroll down to and click on "specified"

In the ensuing window expand the tree & select Junk E-Mail.

Click OK

In the ensuing windows click "Apply Now"

Highlight the rule above and click "Apply Now" at the bottom.

It should say the the rules have been applied. Click OK and you are done.

Hope that works for you!! Mail rules can be fickle as they aren't the easiest things to set up. I used to use them a lot to filter spammers out of the Microsoft Newsgroups in OE and WM.

poppa bear · 14 May 2010

Ex_Brit said:

Hmmm, now let me see....

Tools/Message Rules/Mail

Section 1: Check "Where the from line contains people"

Section 3: Click "Contains People"

Click Contacts - your contact list comes up. Highlight the first one and then holding down the Shift key scroll down using your down arrow to highlight them all.

Add them to the right column by clicking the "From" button.

Click OK

(You may get an error if you have contacts without an email address as it will only add ones with one. That's OK)

Now click the "Options" button.

In section 1: Click the 2nd option: "Message does NOT contain the people below"

Click OK and OK again and you should now be back to original message rule window.

Section 2: Select "Move it to the specified folder"

Section 3: Scroll down to and click on "specified"

In the ensuing window expand the tree & select Junk E-Mail.

Click OK

In the ensuing windows click "Apply Now"

Highlight the rule above and click "Apply Now" at the bottom.

It should say the the rules have been applied. Click OK and you are done.

Hope that works for you!! Mail rules can be fickle as they aren't the easiest things to set up. I used to use them a lot to filter spammers out of the Microsoft Newsgroups in OE and WM.

Wow! I'm impressed!

Thanks heaps Ex_Brit. How the heck did you work all that out? You deserve a Victoria Cross for that effort!

Cheers PB