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  1. Posts : 824
    Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
       #190

    74me said:
    Thanks for the welcome Brink and Night Hawk.

    I have been testing some more. Apparently it doesn't matter if I copy or cut the backup folder when changing its location (must have been something else). The following is what I have tried and have been successful restoring from:

    1) Backup to separate internal hard disk Partition 1, copy or cut to Partition 2.
    2) Backup to separate internal hard disk, copy or cut to external hard disk.
    3) Backup to external hard disk, copy or cut to second external hard disk.
    4) Backup to network location, copy or cut to external hard disk from network loc.
    5) Backup to internal HD, copy or cut to network location, copy or cut to external HD.
    OK, I've just read through this entire thread to only find what I think is my answer on the last page,lol. Still have some questions on this though. Does the copied/cut WindowsImageBackup folder have to be at the root level of a drive/partition in order for the recovery process to see it? Could it be pasted inside of a folder in the root of a drive/partition? I'm wanting to have multiple image backups and as we all know the previous image backup is overwritten.

    Brink said:
    Yep, it's saved incrementally as well. You'll notice under step 4C here, you can select a date within the incremental image backup to restore. :)
    Is there a browse button when one gets to the step in 4C or does one have to type in the path to the folder with the WindowsImageBackup? This may really be what I'm wanting to know.

    Just to be clear, Let's say that I have used System image 3 times on three different dates. During the recovery process are those 3 dates an option to choose from? I know that the files in WindowsImageBackup are overwritten. What I'm unsure about is if in overwriting the files are all 3 dates available for restoration or is it just the last, most recent date.
    Last edited by Greg S; 17 Jan 2010 at 21:41.
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  2. Posts : 8,370
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #191

    The only real way to find out if a fuill recovery will work out is literally copying the original image created into a new folder and seeing how that goes. Since the restoration option provides a browser option to locate "where" the backup imsge is I suspext it would still work.

    The problems seen with a 3rd party program of using a complete backup at the time seemed to be with the program looking at the changes in drive layouts and lettering as well as date as being invalid for some reason. The Windows tools seem to be far more flexible along those lines.
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  3. Posts : 824
    Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
       #192

    Night Hawk said:
    Since the restoration option provides a browser option to locate "where" the backup imsge is.
    .
    That is what wasn't really clear in everything that I read and looked at. So it does have a browse option? The other thing that is not clear, why is one given the options to choose different dates if they exist, if the Image backup overwrites the previous backup? <---- That's what led to this question below

    Just to be clear, Let's say that I have used System image 3 times on three different dates. During the recovery process are those 3 dates an option to choose from? I know that the files in WindowsImageBackup are overwritten. What I'm unsure about is if in overwriting the files are all 3 dates available for restoration or is it just the last, most recent date.
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  4. Posts : 846
    Windows 10 Pro
       #193

    Greg S said:
    Night Hawk said:
    Since the restoration option provides a browser option to locate "where" the backup imsge is.
    .
    That is what wasn't really clear in everything that I read and looked at. So it does have a browse option? The other thing that is not clear, why is one given the options to choose different dates if they exist, if the Image backup overwrites the previous backup? <---- That's what led to this question below

    Just to be clear, Let's say that I have used System image 3 times on three different dates. During the recovery process are those 3 dates an option to choose from? I know that the files in WindowsImageBackup are overwritten. What I'm unsure about is if in overwriting the files are all 3 dates available for restoration or is it just the last, most recent date.

    I keep 3 or 4 image backups. They all copy to a directory of my C: Drive root name. All I do after the backup I go and add a date to the directory or a statement like "All updated and clean" That way the next time I do an image it will backup with erasing anything.


    Here is what my two backups are named.
    Now the next image will be written to "Iggy-PC "
    Last edited by IggyAZ; 05 May 2010 at 13:53.
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  5. Posts : 8,370
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #194

    The browser is actually network locations in case you don't already have an image created. What Iggy did there was keep the images right on C while I went for broke on a totally separate drive where I tend to store files for other versions as well.

    You will first be prompted to back up your existing files before proceeding. Once Windows doesn't find the image at the original location I suspect that you will then see a prompt to browse for the image similar to what is seen with the Windows Easy Transfer tool.
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  6. Posts : 824
    Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
       #195

    IggyAZ said:
    Greg S said:
    Night Hawk said:
    Since the restoration option provides a browser option to locate "where" the backup imsge is.
    .
    That is what wasn't really clear in everything that I read and looked at. So it does have a browse option? The other thing that is not clear, why is one given the options to choose different dates if they exist, if the Image backup overwrites the previous backup? <---- That's what led to this question below

    Just to be clear, Let's say that I have used System image 3 times on three different dates. During the recovery process are those 3 dates an option to choose from? I know that the files in WindowsImageBackup are overwritten. What I'm unsure about is if in overwriting the files are all 3 dates available for restoration or is it just the last, most recent date.

    I keep 3 or 4 image backups. They all copy to a directory of my C: Drive root name. All I do after the backup I go and add a date to the directory or a statement like "All updated and clean" That way the next time I do an image it will backup with erasing anything.


    Here is what my two backups are named.
    Now the next image will be written to "Iggy-PC "
    Night Hawk said:
    The browser is actually network locations in case you don't already have an image created. What Iggy did there was keep the images right on C while I went for broke on a totally separate drive where I tend to store files for other versions as well.

    You will first be prompted to back up your existing files before proceeding. Once Windows doesn't find the image at the original location I suspect that you will then see a prompt to browse for the image similar to what is seen with the Windows Easy Transfer tool.
    Ah, you both have cleared it upped beautifully! Thank you
    I'm using USB external HD and will go the route of Iggy-PC. Now that I can see it for myself, I feel stupid for having asked the questions,lol
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  7. Posts : 846
    Windows 10 Pro
       #196

    Night Hawk said:
    The browser is actually network locations in case you don't already have an image created. What Iggy did there was keep the images right on C while I went for broke on a totally separate drive where I tend to store files for other versions as well.

    You will first be prompted to back up your existing files before proceeding. Once Windows doesn't find the image at the original location I suspect that you will then see a prompt to browse for the image similar to what is seen with the Windows Easy Transfer tool.

    Actually Night Hawk I have a backup internal HD that I copy my images.
    I don't thinkit will allow you to image to the C: Drive. Must be anything but C:
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  8. Posts : 846
    Windows 10 Pro
       #197

    Greg S said:
    Ah, you both have cleared it upped beautifully! Thank you
    I'm using USB external HD and will go the route of Iggy-PC. Now that I can see it for myself, I feel stupid for having asked the questions,lol
    Glad it helped. For awhle I was just copying over my old image until I saw the light.
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  9. Posts : 8,370
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #198

    For the 1tb drive here seeing about 141gb between Windows and all else as far as files the full image turned to out to be 131gb in size. I wasn't going to fit all that on 11 dvd-rws anytime soon!

    The restoration of an image on a clean install of Windows not the present copy would be the one where you would likely see the option to browse. When going to look here right after the recent image the prompting to backup the present files in order to continue came up first.

    Unfortunately I don't have a drive free at the present time to throw on a fast install to see how restoring the present image would go. That would show what is seen as far as locating the present image with a free screens to add here and if it can still use it. That's when you go to the other guide for System Image Recovery

    Another guide provides some warning when restoring a drive or partition from an image which shows two options for the latest images created or locating the image manually once you have restarted the system after the initial screens in order to continue on. Windows 7: How to Restore Windows 7 Partition or Hard Disk Partitions from a System Image
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  10. Posts : 5
    win 7 pro 32bit
       #199

    Hey guys,

    Zipping the Win7 backup works too :) this was the final thing I needed.

    I will explain my backup process for anyone else it may help (7+ computers):

    1) Run Windows backup to a second hard drive in the same PC as the Win7 drive.
    2) Sched Task zips the WindowsImageBackup folder into 1 file. (7-Zip Cmd Line)
    3) Sched Task sends the zip file (via Cmd Line FTP) to a central backup server.
    4) Copy the backup zip files to external hard disk from server, and put into fire safe.

    5) When restoring. Find the zip file that corresponds to the computer you are trying to restore. Unzip the WindowsImageBackup folder from the zip file to the root of the external hard disk. Load the recovery CD, and it will find the image to restore from.

    With this method you are safe if 2 of the 3 hard disks fail, anyone steals your computer(s), and if there is a fire in the building. If you wanted an extra level of security you could FTP the file to an off-site location in case of natural or man made disasters.

    CL
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