Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

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  1. Posts : 51
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #520

    Hi,

    I have 430 GB HDD,
    Partition to:
    C: 60.4 GB free of 230 GB
    D: 35.9 GB free of 200 GB

    So i already have 320 GB of files saved on my hard drive.

    I want to clone my hard drive ( C: and D: ), i want to know how much capacity does the 'Cloned Files' will be? It will be the same capacity as 320 GB?
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  2. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #521

    If you are talking about creating an image with Windows Backup then the image will be about 60 - 70% of the used space on the partitions you are backing up. A third party imaging solution such as Macrium Reflect (link in my sig) will do rather better than that.
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  3. Posts : 14
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #522

    When I create a system image, windows wants to backup both my C drive (Windows and programs on SSD) as well as my A dive (which holds my user account and all my files etc.) I cannot uncheck the A drive option. This makes for a huge backup size. I don't want to backup all my files as they are backed up elsewhere. I may be wrong, but I am sure I used to be able to backup just the C drive using "create system image" in Win7. I recently had to restore my system using a system image after a motherboard repair and I think that this phenomenon has occurred since that restore.

    Any advice most welcome.
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  4. Posts : 10,455
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
       #523

    I think that the Users folder is regarded as "system" by windows backup and so will be included in an image. Another thing that may make a partition included is if it has a paging file on it.
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  5. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #524

    Hello Peter and Keith,

    Yes, that would be correct. Anything (partition/drive) that is considered "system" will be included in the system image by default and cannot be unselected since it's required for Windows 7 to run properly.
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  6. Posts : 14
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #525

    Thanks for your advice.

    Interestingly I tried using the software, NTI Backup Now EZ, to create a system image. It stated that it was performing a complete system backup but mentioned only the C drive and no other. By comparison the image created by Windows was 438 GB whereas that created by NTI was only 64 GB! I must add that I have never tried a system restore from an NTI image, but I trust that it would do the job.

    To add to my puzzlement I checked the windows created system image I used to do the last system restore I mentioned in my first post - it too was just 64 GB. I am sure I am correct that when I created this image, only my C drive was backed up.

    Naturally, despite your words of wisdom, I remain somewhat curious as what is going on, particularly as the only thing that has changed is a new BIOS chip on my motherboard after a failure.
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  7. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #526

    Well, you say that you now have your user account on the A drive. That would be the change that caused this.

    The A drive is now considered a system drive with your user account on it. That's why it's being included when you try to create a system image now using the built-in feature in Windows 7. The only way to stop that is to move your user account back to it's default C location.
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  8. Posts : 14
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #527

    A misunderstanding.
    My user acount has always been on my A drive so there has been no change there.
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  9. Posts : 70,208
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #528

    I'm surprised that it wasn't included in your system image (built-in one in Windows 7) before, but that would be why it is now though. Normall the A and B drive letters are reserved for floppy drives, so that may be why it didn't see it as a system drive before.

    If you like, post back a screenshot of your Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc) window showing your complete HDDs layout. This will let us better see what system drives would be included by default.
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  10. Posts : 14
    Windows 7 64 bit
       #529

    OK, here's the screenshot you asked for.
    You might realise from my disk names that I keep lots of photographs and backups!


    Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup-disk-20management.png
    Last edited by Brink; 07 Nov 2012 at 16:26. Reason: fixed image
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