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Windows 7: Imaging with free Macrium

05 Jul 2015   #1430
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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One is the lack of dynamic disk support in free V6.
Most people avoid dynamic disks and make them accidentally. Then the job is to convert back to a basic disk.
If people avoid them, what purpose do they serve (just curious)? Besides that, I take it not having support for dynamic disks will not be a problem then?


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06 Jul 2015   #1431
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.2 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Software RAID

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One is the lack of dynamic disk support in free V6.
Most people avoid dynamic disks and make them accidentally. Then the job is to convert back to a basic disk.
If people avoid them, what purpose do they serve (just curious)? Besides that, I take it not having support for dynamic disks will not be a problem then?
During my TAFE Networking course we used dynamic disks to create software RAID (W2K8 server).

It worked perfectly at TAFE, but I've never been able to do anything successful with them anywhere else.
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06 Jul 2015   #1432
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

There is quite a good explanation of dynamic disks here...https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx
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06 Jul 2015   #1433
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

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I'm still on the fence on whether to just stay with my Pro V5, upgrade to free V6, or upgrade to V6 Pro. Some of the features I still don't understand.
Here's my approach:

Create backups with V5.
Uninstall V5.
Install V6.
Test V6 and see how it works for me.
If V6 isn't for me, restore the V5 image(s).

For me V6 free is much better than V5 free, no going back to V5 for me.
I can't comment on V5 paid vs V6 (free or paid) ...
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06 Jul 2015   #1434
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

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If people avoid them, what purpose do they serve (just curious)? Besides that, I take it not having support for dynamic disks will not be a problem then?
There are numerous descriptions on what dynamic disks are but I just see them as a headache for the average user. So I wouldn't bother using them and worry about any lack of support. I'd be very interested in other opinions - I'm prepared to be swayed.
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06 Jul 2015   #1435
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Thanks, guys, the difference between dynamic and basic disks is much clearer now (for the record, I can't see myself ever needing them).

Now, what about the other two questions?

SSD TRIM support is another one I don't get. What does TRIM have to do with Macrium Reflect (my C: drive is an SSD, btw)?

I'm also not sure what Backup File Management is. Is that what I am using now to have Macrium Reflect automatically delete images older than eight weeks?
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06 Jul 2015   #1436
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I'm still on the fence on whether to just stay with my Pro V5, upgrade to free V6, or upgrade to V6 Pro. Some of the features I still don't understand.
Here's my approach:

Create backups with V5.
Uninstall V5.
Install V6.
Test V6 and see how it works for me.
If V6 isn't for me, restore the V5 image(s).

For me V6 free is much better than V5 free, no going back to V5 for me.
I can't comment on V5 paid vs V6 (free or paid) ...
The big improvements in v6 paid over v5 paid. my personal opinion.


1. Task scheduling templates. Grandfather/Father/Son etc.
2. Incremental backups with consolidation of older incrementals into the base image. In other words this allows for continual incrementals with a fixed limit in the chain length.
3. Fast delta restore. If you are restoring a recent image over an existing partition this results in drastically reduced restore times (in my case 35 min down to 5 min).
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06 Jul 2015   #1437
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

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SSD TRIM support is another one I don't get. What does TRIM have to do with Macrium Reflect (my C: drive is an SSD, btw)?
Quote:
If required, set Advanced Options as follows:
  1. Rapid Delta Restore to copy only changed data blocks and complete the restore process more quickly.
    Note: Only NTFS file systems that are not shrunk can be restored in this way.
  2. SSD Trim to enable TRIM on restore.
    Note: Writing to an unused block is quicker than writing to one in use and results in an increase of both the lifetime and the performance of the device.
  3. Verify Image to chose whether to verify an image before restoring.
  4. Master Boot Record to replace the restore with the Master Boot Record (MBR) from the backup.
    Note: The MBR is a small program that executes when the computer starts up. If this program becomes corrupt then you can have problems starting the computer operating system.
Source: Restoring an image from within Windows - KnowledgeBase - Macrium Software
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06 Jul 2015   #1438
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
...The big improvements in v6 paid over v5 paid. my personal opinion.


1. Task scheduling templates. Grandfather/Father/Son etc.
2. Incremental backups with consolidation of older incrementals into the base image. In other words this allows for continual incrementals with a fixed limit in the chain length.
3. Fast delta restore. If you are restoring a recent image over an existing partition this results in drastically reduced restore times (in my case 35 min down to 5 min).
Thanks for that info, 'tis good to know. My take on those points are:

1. I can't schedule backups since I never can always know if WMC will be running or not. MR will crash early on if WMC is running. I have some series scheduled to record but I record more movies than series, which can be at almost any time. I prefer to make my images immediately after I run my weekly long scans (which are usually on the same day every week but not necessarily at the same time; I also make an image before making system changes, such as installing a new program or installing updates) and before I run my data backups (using a different program; I only image my C: drive/partition), which I run right after I've made the image so the new image will get backed up before I have a chance to lose it for whatever reason. I use only one image configuration on my images and start that from the sole XML file I keep on each computer so having templates wouldn't really benefit me any.

2. I haven't used incremental backups in a long time. Full images are easier to keep track of and are less likely to fail due to a missing or corrupted incremental image. It takes me only 11 minutes to make a full image on my desktop machine (a bit less on my notebooks). I have way more than enough room to store eight weeks of images (MR will automatically delete any older than 8 weeks).

3. Fast delta restore is attractive but that alone wouldn't be enough for me to pay for an upgrade since it takes me only abut 13-14 minutes or less to do a restore (during which time I can be doing something else, like making my bladder gladder, snag a snack, or other such high priority tasks). I don't need to restore very often, maybe once every other month, if that.

Apparently, my main concern is whether I would lose any features I already use if I were to go from V5 paid to V6 free.
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06 Jul 2015   #1439
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Everyone has different configurations, wants, needs, etc.

Can you test V6 free on a test system, perhaps a VM, just so you can kick the tires and see how you like it ?
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