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Windows 7: Imaging with free Macrium

08 Jul 2015   #1460
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.1 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

I had 300 GB available, so (theoretically) there was never any danger of a backup image being purged.

My issue is that MR was saying, it would purge a backup, despite me telling it not to.

That is why I posted:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
I don't know if this is:
  • A bug
  • A glitch on my PC
  • A display error
  • Just poorly worded



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09 Jul 2015   #1461
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

I was curious so did some testing.
For me, creating an image uses my default settings and ignores my "run-time override" choice for Retention Rules.

With default setting set to never delete old backups, it didn't delete old backups, and gave me a clear message about the problem of not enough space.
See screen print 1.

When I set default settings to delete old images, then did an override to not delete old images at "backup run-time", it ignored my override and did delete old images.
See screen print 2.

I see ignoring the retention rules override choice as a bug.
For me, with my default settings set to not delete old images, v6 works as i want.
Your mileage may vary.

Screen print 1 - old images not deleted using my defaults.
Imaging with free Macrium-macrium_image_03.png

Screen print 2 - old images deleted using my defaults, ignoring my override choice to not delete.
Imaging with free Macrium-macrium_image_04.png


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09 Jul 2015   #1462
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

It looks like a bug to me too.
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09 Jul 2015   #1463
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.1 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Thanks DavidE

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
I was curious so did some testing.
For me, creating an image uses my default settings and ignores my "run-time override" choice for Retention Rules.

With default setting set to never delete old backups, it didn't delete old backups, and gave me a clear message about the problem of not enough space.
See screen print 1.

When I set default settings to delete old images, then did an override to not delete old images at "backup run-time", it ignored my override and did delete old images.
See screen print 2.

I see ignoring the retention rules override choice as a bug.
For me, with my default settings set to not delete old images, v6 works as i want.
Your mileage may vary.
Thanks for testing that.


Asking the user to make a choice and then ignoring that choice is unacceptable.

Now all we need is for someone with a non-free version of Macrium Reflect to report this issue about the free version.
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10 Jul 2015   #1464
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
SSD TRIM support is another one I don't get. What does TRIM have to do with Macrium Reflect (my C: drive is an SSD, btw)?
I'm still not sure either.
I'm still using the latest free V5 and it doesn't appear under Restore - Advanced options. When I perform a system image restore to an SSD, TRIM is always enabled. Why would you not want it enabled when given the option? Maybe Windows 7 doesn't automatically enable TRIM for all SSDs?
Someone asked about trim on the Macrium v6 forum here:
TRIM operation on RESTOIRE
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10 Jul 2015   #1465
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Well, if the trim feature wasn't as part of V5 Pro, it might explain why my SSD is at 87% (although SSDLife projects it has nine more years of life).
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10 Jul 2015   #1466
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

SSD TRIM support is a new feature in V6:
New in Version 6 - KnowledgeBase - Macrium Software

The V6 change log is here:
Macrium Reflect Patch Details
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10 Jul 2015   #1467
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Thanks for the info DavidE,
I think I still need to do a bit more reading on the TRIM issue. Three points for comment that may also be of interest to others:

1) Is Macrium V6 (free) still buggy?
2) Can you have both V5 and V6 installed?
3) Re the TRIM issue - with V5 and maybe other imaging software would it be useful to format the SSD using the bootable Partition Wizard before a reimage?
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10 Jul 2015   #1468
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
...A Windows system image is always bigger than 5 GB so that is simply just plain theoretical issue, you will never select a storage location with so little free space...
Unless you are my 83 year old father. I have his SSD Windows drive scheduled to be imaged every Wednesday morning. I put a reminder in his calendar to check the disk space on the storage drive but he does not always remember to do it. (Or remember "how" to do it; he suffers from some significant problems at this point.)

As for the concerns about wanting to preserve certain very old images, I create a subfolder named "Saved" and use it for things like the first image created after a clean install, etc. It leaves those images out of the mix when any automatic deletion might take place.
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10 Jul 2015   #1469
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
...As for the concerns about wanting to preserve certain very old images, I create a subfolder named "Saved" and use it for things like the first image created after a clean install, etc. It leaves those images out of the mix when any automatic deletion might take place.
I did pretty much the same. I put the first image I made after first setting up my machine into a subfolder of my Boot Drive Image folder named "Boot Back Up 1 (Do Not Delete)(Disabled)". The image file itself I further protected by adding .disable to the end of the filename. If I ever need to use the image, all I have to do is delete the .disable.
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