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Windows 7: Imaging with free Macrium

14 Nov 2011   #230

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

No contest ossjzb EasUS mate now I am a clunker - clumsy and not good with complicated apps and this one is just select and clone in about three / four steps. That it doesn't involve any rocket science is what I have to have.

As for using the clone mate it just does it - have tried it on this machine - taken the original drive out flipped the clone in and it just acts like nothings happened or maybe I got lucky (for a change lol)

Sie sind besorgniserregend zu viel - entspannen und relaxen ein wenig!

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14 Nov 2011   #231

win 7 64bit

Ich bin ein Berliner !.. that's right... i AM a jelly Doughnut ! :) rip JFK !
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15 Nov 2011   #232

windows 7

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15 Nov 2011   #233

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
I think that the free version can restore to a drive that has the same capacity or greater. I don't think you can restore to a smaller drive.
You can, actually, depending on specific circumstances. Allow me to elaborate, just so there's no misunderstanding. :)

Macrium can restore any partition image to any partition that's the same or greater size than the one that was backed up. How much of the backed-up partition was actually in use at the time the image was taken is not relevant here, only the partition sizes themselves matter.

So if you have, say, a 500GB HD but the system partition is only 200GB big, and you image it and then want to restore it later, you could restore it to a 250GB harddisk without any problem. (In this case, Macrium would also optionally resize the restored partition to use the remaining 50GB on the new disk as well.)

If you want to image and restore an entire disk containing multiple partitions (assuming that the partitions indeed fill the entire disk which usually is the case), then yes, you'd need a same-size or bigger harddisk to restore to.
Unless, that is, you choose to restore only select partitions from that image.

Hope that makes it clearer. :)
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15 Nov 2011   #234

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Perfectly clear. Thanks Corazon. One tends to equate partition with drive which I shouldn't.
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15 Nov 2011   #235

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1

It is my understanding that you do have only the partition size constraint as stated by Corazon. BUT if you replace the MBR, which is a Macrium option, then you are replacing the partition table which defines the original disks complete partition structure.

So if you are rebuilding the overall partition structure of the complete disk you form its partition structure or MBR partition table entries when you format and partition the new HDD. Then do NOT replace the MBR when reimaging or else you will overwrite the new partition table.
You will need to do a
bootrec /fixmbr
to rebuild the rest of the MBR (but not the new partition table)

At least this is my understanding.
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15 Nov 2011   #236

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit

kado897, yeah, I understand where that comes from since Windows also refers to partitions as drives. Which, in a logical sense, they are.

mjf, restoring the MBR using Macrium only overwrites the boot code (the first 446 bytes, I think? Not sure right now). It doesn't touch the partition table, so no worries there.

Edit: The MBR structure, including the partition table, is nicely illustrated here:
And I was right about the 446 bytes.
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15 Nov 2011   #237

Windows 7 32 bit

Paragon looks like its free.. and has a TON of features.. i;ll have to take a look at that also.
I would only consider the "backup capsule" .. if the free version gives that feature, safe to use on XP. I had 2 different versions of Vista get partition table problems when I tried the backup capsule. They keep saying they fixed all the Vista incompatibilities but unfortunately the only way to know they haven't is to get burned.

The backup capsule gimmick is of limited value anyway. People who lay on restores because they do testing all day may think it convenient. But it's not much help for malware recovery. A nastly malware hoses your drive so it won't boot anyway.

For cloning it's a moot point I suppose. :)
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15 Nov 2011   #238

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1

thanks I know the structure of the MBR but I stand corrected. Macrium doesn't just replace the partition table, it rewrites it. Windows imaging does replace it which is why it has the added constraint that you must reimage to the same partition structure. I did this exercise.
Macrium even tells you it's writing the partition table!
Imaging with free Macrium-macrium-test.jpg
Here I reimaged a larger partition (left picture) with a smaller sized image and the partition size decreases (right picture). The difference is interpreted as unallocated.
Imaging with free Macrium-macrium-test-mbr.jpg

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15 Nov 2011   #239

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Well I reckon for me the EaseUS is second to none it is just too easy and for a clunker like me who doesn't understand all this partition stuff too well - I couldn't wish for a better app.
Have cloned everything in sight and wished I ahd done so a long time ago (before I trashed my XP tester)

Am seriously thinking of getting the real deal for the extra features.

I can't thank a certain someone enough for putting me onto it
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