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Windows 7: System Restore - Enable or Disable

14 Feb 2016   #20
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

betaupsilon,

In your situation, I would recommend to keep system images. They are much more reliable than restore points, and won't be deleted when you defrag.


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15 Feb 2016   #21
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
betaupsilon,

In your situation, I would recommend to keep system images. They are much more reliable than restore points, and won't be deleted when you defrag.
I would agree with you, except on one point that IMAGES take considerable disk space which makes them not ideal for small to intermediate changes in the system. I use images for significant events. I like to use RESTORE PTS to bridge the gap between my 2 most recent images. Once a new image is created I then delete the RESTORE PTS & start fresh.

So it is disappointing that DEFRAG ruins that approach. I do not view DEFRAG as a change in the system. It just rearranges the furniture on the deck so to speak.

By the way, I did an experiment with the DEFRAG utility. I expanded out the MAX disk space for SYS PROTECTION. I had 4 restore points that took 1.1 Gb of disk space. After DEFRAG the disk usage ballooned to 4.3 Gb. So are the SHADOW copies getting bigger or are there invisible SHADOW copies being created by the DEFRAG utility?
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15 Feb 2016   #22
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Defrag wouldn't create any shadow copies, so I'm not sure what that could be from either.

I can see defrag wiping restore points if it messes with its allocated space.
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15 Feb 2016   #23
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
Defrag wouldn't create any shadow copies, so I'm not sure what that could be from either.

I can see defrag wiping restore points if it messes with its allocated space.
I'll run the experiment again & use the vssadmin cmd to ascertain if each SHADOW is actually growing & report back.
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15 Feb 2016   #24
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
Defrag wouldn't create any shadow copies, so I'm not sure what that could be from either.

I can see defrag wiping restore points if it messes with its allocated space.
I'll run the experiment again & use the vssadmin cmd to ascertain if each SHADOW is actually growing & report back.
I have a list of my SHADOW copies, but it does not report the size of each. I only get the VOLUME SHADOW storage info. Is there a way to get size info on individual copies?
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16 Feb 2016   #25
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

You might see if the program TimeTraveler may work for that.

Getting the size of a volume shadow copy snapshot | Joco blog

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16 Feb 2016   #26
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by betaupsilon View Post
I have a list of my SHADOW copies, but it does not report the size of each. I only get the VOLUME SHADOW storage info. Is there a way to get size info on individual copies?
I actually booted into WinPE mode & accessed the SYS VOL INFO folder directly. I took a snapshot on my phone of the directory & I believe I have the sizes of the individual copies. I still have to do the DEFRAG & will upload the snapshots tomorrow.
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16 Feb 2016   #27
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Hi Shawn,
I got the snapshot of the SHADOW copy change on my phone. The last SHADOW went from 320 Mb to 4.6 Gb. So the DEFRAG operation is writing directly to the last SHADOW made by SYS PROTECTION. My understanding was that a SYS RESTORE PT is a SNAPSHOT. It should not be changing in time. This is not the case here. Is the last SHADOW associated with my RESTORE PT or is it something else? I have 4 RESTORE PTS as indicated in the 3rd snapshot.


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16 Feb 2016   #28
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

What is the max storage size set to for system protection?

If it's at least the same size or larger, then it would just be defrag having the max allocated space for system protection available now instead of growing to max as restore points are created.

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16 Feb 2016   #29
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
What is the max storage size set to for system protection?
I expanded the MAX to be 15Gb.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
If it's at least the same size or larger, then it would just be defrag having the max allocated space for system protection available now instead of growing to max as restore points are created.
I don't follow what you are trying to say.
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