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Windows 7: System Restore - Enable or Disable

16 Feb 2016   #30
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

I just meant that defrag had just made the max size show for it instead of just what was used.


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16 Feb 2016   #31
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
I just meant that defrag had just made the max size show for it instead of just what was used.
I still do not understand. If the SHADOW is associated with a RESTORE PT is it not fixed? The RESTORE PT is a snapshot in time. Whatever changes in the system after that should not be written to the SHADOW?

If I had not changed the MAX disk space then I would have lost all of my previous RESTORE PTS. If what you are saying is correct then I shouldn't lose them?
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16 Feb 2016   #32
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Yes, but it's the shadow volume for the total max size.

I'm not sure why defrag is increasing the size either, and max size was the only thing I could think of that may be responsible. You could test by reducing the max size to see if there are any coincidences with defrag.
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16 Feb 2016   #33
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
Yes, but it's the shadow volume for the total max size.

I'm not sure why defrag is increasing the size either, and max size was the only thing I could think of that may be responsible. You could test by reducing the max size to see if there are any coincidences with defrag.
If I went to the trouble of another experiment would it provide the necessary info to block what DEFRAG is doing?
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16 Feb 2016   #34
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

No. It may only let you know if defrag is setting the size based off of max size or not.
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16 Feb 2016   #35
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

I was reading somewhere about relocating the RESTORE PTS to another drive or partition. Is that even possible?
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16 Feb 2016   #36
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

That is possible in the server edition. But in normal Windows they have to stay in the shadowstorage of the partition. If you want, you can use imaging. That allows to put the images anywhere.

Imaging with free Macrium
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16 Feb 2016   #37
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
That is possible in the server edition. But in normal Windows they have to stay in the shadowstorage of the partition. If you want, you can use imaging. That allows to put the images anywhere.

Imaging with free Macrium
Nah, I am very familiar with IMAGING. I like to use my RESTORE PTS as intermediaries between imaging periods, but the DEFRAG utility if on an automated schedule ruins that strategy. Why the DEFRAG utility can write to a SHADOW copy presumably dedicated to a RESTORE PT completely baffles me.
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16 Feb 2016   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You are hopping around in circles. But that is no solution. I tell you, with the restore points you will never be safe. They are volatile. Since you know imaging, why don't you use that - but not Windows imaging. That is another headache.
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27 Apr 2017   #39
Scoop

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Shawn,

I have a couple of questions about System Restore / disable.

I'm running Win 7x64 Home Premium so I don't have Group Editor access.

In the past, I've disabled (& enabled) System Restore in the following way:

Control Panel / System & Security / System / System Protection :

For example, to disable Restore Points on my C: drive (OS Drive), I click on the right-hand pane "System Protection" option, select my C: drive, then turn off System Protection (attached images).

I usually disable it before I install Win Updates to save time and prevent redundant Sys Restore creation points after each Update install (as I typically install 1 update at a time).

I also don't rely on Sys Restore Points as a recovery tool since I Clone (or Image) before installing Win updates.

My questions are:

1) Is the method I use (attached images) accomplishing the same as using your REG file downloads?

From what I can tell, it's the same but I'm not sure about it (per my 2nd question).

2) Are there specific Win Updates that override the user's setting that have the Sys Restore Points disabled?

Here's what I noticed today when I installed the April Win Update rollups & the Monthly Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830 .

Prior to installing KB890830, I disabled Sys Restore Points using the method I've used in the past (attached images).

That seemed to work as the Win Update dialog Install screen briefly (for about 2 seconds) displayed "Creating a Restore Point", bypassing the usual Restore Point creation status bar, and quickly changed to the "Download Update / Install" dialogs.

However, when I installed the April Rollups Net Framework KB4014981 and the Win 7 Security Monthly Rollup KB4015549, The Sys Restore Points were created, seemingly overriding my current settings for my C: drive (Sys Protection off).

Do the major Rollup updates override the user's Sys Protection settings?

Or is it because my method (attached images) isn't accomplishing the same thing as your REG download (disable) ?


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