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Windows 7: Fan Speed Controller - Build your Own

18 Oct 2010   #20
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Hey thanks for the reply!
Yeah, i understand that. The resistor on the LED won't affect the potentiometer at all?
Or did you mean have a "Y" section? splits to resistor/led and to potentiometer?
To be on the safe side, you could connect the LED directly to the ground. So you'd have two lines going from the switch to the ground, such as:

Code:
/ = switch
o = potentiometer
- = LED
~ = resistor
* = fan
=================

  +12v
    |
    /
 |    |
 o    ~
 |    |
 *    -
 |    |
(ground)
That way, the fan will only be connected to the potentiometer and the LEd will only be connected to the resistor, while both the resistor and potentiometer will be controlled simultaneously by the switch.


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18 Oct 2010   #21
Silvion

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Ah yeah, awesome suggestions. Thanks a lot,
I could have the 12v going to three lots of those, and another 12v to another 3..

Thanks for your input!
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18 Oct 2010   #22
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Hey thanks for the reply!
Yeah, i understand that. The resistor on the LED won't affect the potentiometer at all?
Or did you mean have a "Y" section? splits to resistor/led and to potentiometer?


I can make two seperate circuits to have two 12v inputs, no worries there..
Also, would you know where i went wrong with these calculations?
12 = 12(85.71/(Rr+85.71))
1 = 85.71/(Rr+85.71)
1(Rr+85.71) = 85.71
Rr + 85.71 = 85.71
Rr = 1???
My fan is drawing 0.14amps on a 12v line:/
I just realized that I defined Vf in 2 different ways.

You want Vf to be 5v in this equation. I will go back and clarify that.

And yes, you want a Y connector off the switch. The reason is that if you put the LED inline with the pot, you won't have enough to power the fan as the fan needs 12v, not 2v.

~Lordbob
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18 Oct 2010   #23
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Hey thanks for the reply!
Yeah, i understand that. The resistor on the LED won't affect the potentiometer at all?
Or did you mean have a "Y" section? splits to resistor/led and to potentiometer?
To be on the safe side, you could connect the LED directly to the ground. So you'd have two lines going from the switch to the ground, such as:

Code:
/ = switch
o = potentiometer
- = LED
~ = resistor
* = fan
=================

  +12v
    |
    /
 |    |
 o    ~
 |    |
 *    -
 |    |
(ground)
That way, the fan will only be connected to the potentiometer and the LEd will only be connected to the resistor, while both the resistor and potentiometer will be controlled simultaneously by the switch.
Exactly.

~Lordbob
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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18 Oct 2010   #24
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Ah yeah, awesome suggestions. Thanks a lot,
I could have the 12v going to three lots of those, and another 12v to another 3..

Thanks for your input!
No problem.. I know it was written with a slightly different purpose in mind (switch for LEDs in the fan itself), but you might find the information in LordBob's other tutorial helpful in this quest: Lights - Add An On/Off Switch
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18 Oct 2010   #25
ZaLiTH

Win 10 x64 Pro x64 / Ubuntu 15.10 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Exactly.

~Lordbob
Lol.. I think I'm coming dangerously close to hijacking your thread here... Oops...
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18 Oct 2010   #26
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Exactly.

~Lordbob
Lol.. I think I'm coming dangerously close to hijacking your thread here... Oops...
Don't worry about it.

I am reworking the equation to be SOLVED for Rr, so it will involve a lot less algebra for those reading.
However, I keep getting 2 completely different resists, so I am still working on that.

~Lordbob
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18 Oct 2010   #27
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Hey thanks for the reply!
Yeah, i understand that. The resistor on the LED won't affect the potentiometer at all?
Or did you mean have a "Y" section? splits to resistor/led and to potentiometer?


I can make two seperate circuits to have two 12v inputs, no worries there..
Also, would you know where i went wrong with these calculations?
12 = 12(85.71/(Rr+85.71))
1 = 85.71/(Rr+85.71)
1(Rr+85.71) = 85.71
Rr + 85.71 = 85.71
Rr = 1???
My fan is drawing 0.14amps on a 12v line:/
Here is the new equation:

Rr = ((Vs*Rf)/Vf)-Rf

Rr = ((12*85.7)/5)-85.7
Rr = 119.98 Ohms, assuming you want a 5v minumum.

Sorry about the confusion.

~Lordbob
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18 Oct 2010   #28
Silvion

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Here is the new equation:

Rr = ((Vs*Rf)/Vf)-Rf

Rr = ((12*85.7)/5)-85.7
Rr = 119.98 Ohms, assuming you want a 5v minumum.

Sorry about the confusion.

~Lordbob
Ah thanks for clearing that up, so i need a potentionmeter's around 120 ohms? (can't go below 120, but can go higher? Just means that they won't go as slow when spinning?)
So fans will run at a minimum of 5v, max of 12v?
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18 Oct 2010   #29
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Silvion View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Here is the new equation:

Rr = ((Vs*Rf)/Vf)-Rf

Rr = ((12*85.7)/5)-85.7
Rr = 119.98 Ohms, assuming you want a 5v minumum.

Sorry about the confusion.

~Lordbob
Ah thanks for clearing that up, so i need a potentionmeter's around 120 ohms? (can't go below 120, but can go higher? Just means that they won't go as slow when spinning?)
So fans will run at a minimum of 5v, max of 12v?
It is variable.

I have found that the fan needs about 10v minimum to start, but will keep running down to around 3 or 4 volts.

Now, if you INCREASE the size on the potentiometer (i.e. 150 ohms), then the fan will spin slower. If you decrease the pot (i.e.100 ohms), then it will spin faster.

It is up to how slow you want the fan to go. I picked 5v as a low because that is the lowest it is really rated at, and it just turned off after that.

~Lordbob
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