Quick Launch - Enable or Disable

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  1. Posts : 8,370
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    Sometimes the idea of having a quich launch bar is to have things there you may not use that often but won't find in the Start menu. Things like stand alone utilities where you manually have to create a desktop shortcut can easily go there and don't simply become another item to clutter the desktop.

    As for the new taskbar itself you can simply right click to unpin items as well pinning items from the Start>Programs for ease of access at any time. But the bar will fill too fast if you regularly use a number of them!

    As you can see from the two images there all those would force combing on the taskbar here that's already full. Just image all those taking up desktop space if not contained in the addon bars there.
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  2. Posts : 4
    Windows 7

    Hi Night Hawk,

    I have taken a second look at the two images that you have provided, and in my opinion most of the programs you have on your QuickLaunch could be accessed very quickly by typing in a single keyword through the start menu (this is what I would do).

    Some other items such as the ‘Recycle Bin’ I would happily keep on my desktop; I would find keeping such items in the QuickLaunch menu impractical & inconvenient.

    I would not keep a shortcut to the control panel in my QuickLaunch menu either as it is easily accessible through the start menu. The short cut to ‘Microsoft Mouse’ which I presume is for altering mouse settings is not something I personally ever need to alter but if I did I would access it through the control panel (via the start menu).

    I personally prefer to keep my Games in the Games folder on the 'Start Menu'.

    It seems to me that you have an extremely and unnecessarily cluttered QuickLaunch contrasting an unnecessarily empty desktop (I guess we all have our idiosyncrasies).

    I am aware that I can pin and unpin things onto my taskbar, but as yet I haven’t found a use for this feature. At the moment I still find pinned programs irritating as they take up unnecessary space and program icons (not running) move around in between those programs which are running.
    (To me it just looks untidy and cumbersome).

    I really hope that when this operating system hits the shelves in a commercial way, a simple right click option to reinstate the traditional QuickLaunch is allowed so that people like me who don’t enjoy the new ‘pinning thing’ have the option to quickly and easily CHOOSE to have our PC’s the way we like them.

    Remember – Ideas are great (lets have more), but don’t forget to allow the customer the ability to easily CHOOSE which ideas they want and which they don’t.
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  3. Posts : 8,370
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    The Recycle Bin seen there was only an extra item added in to illustrate the volume of desktop items you can have rolled up into a quick launch bar. You'll note that is also seen in a separate bar as well.

    As far as the games a second will show only one would normally be seen in the Start>Games section that being the Ouantum of Solace Windows Games item if the games section was visible to start with. You'll notice it isn't as well as other folders there.

    With a quick launch bar for each catagory you actually end up seeing multiple Start menus once you have a large number of programs and other items loaded on the system to start with. Rather then the need for the desktop cleanup tool any unused for the moment shortcuts are conveniently tucked away while still having ready access.

    For duplicate items when the taskbar is filled and items are grouped a dropdown menu also provides ready access again.You'll notice when one IE window is open you would normally have to go back into the Start menu in order to open up a second one. Soluttion? Note the IE icon at the top of the Quick Launch bar there providing ready access for that.

    The entire process seen when adding on a new toolbar offers customization for individual preferences as well as having offering practical applications. Shawn did an excellent job preparing the guide here to show how this can easily be done.
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  4. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64

    JaJa said:
    I am happy that my Windows7 taskbar now looks like it did in Vista & XP, with the added addition of an ‘option’ to pin things to the taskbar if I wish.

    The items I have ‘on show’ in my QuickLaunch Menu are those I use most frequently, the occasional programs I use are hidden behind the arrow which extends my QuickLaunch menu.
    For any other program (i.e. ones that I almost never use) I open the start menu and type in a key word which most always finds the program wanted with very little effort.

    My setup works very well, and takes up only a very small part of the taskbar on the left in the same fashion as Vista or XP, which I find very uncomplicated and neat.

    I am intrigued by my new found ability to pin things to the taskbar, and as I said in my previous post I may yet find a use for it (I am not opposed to new things). However my first impressions of the ‘Windows7’ taskbar were not favourable and I have to say that I agree with the comments/observations that “chrysalis” has been making.

    Never the less my biggest grumble is not that I prefer one style over another but that the options to change between have not been made easy. In short I had to find this forum and follow through this unnecessarily complicated “fix” in order to make my machine work the way I wanted it to.
    It is always good to have new ideas and the pinning things on the taskbar for me may yet have its uses.

    However it is a BIG mistake to take away peoples options and this “fix” (which is easy for me) will no doubt confuse a lot of people who want to return their systems to the normality which I & they prefer. My prediction will be (if things go unchanged) that many people won’t like ‘Windows7’ simply because they don’t like the new taskbar & thus sales will be affected (which would be a shame).

    I would say that a simple right click on the taskbar to open up an option to reinstate the QuickLaunch menu would appease many unhappy with the new ideas.

    Upon reflection I consider that, if a simple option to return to a familiar look had been in place from the start this whole forum dialogue probably would never have needed to come into existence.
    But hey this is only the ‘Release Candidate’ and I guess you need such feedback in order to make the changes needed.
    I agree, if this tweak wasnt available I wont hesistate in saying the lack of quick launch would have turned me of windows 7 altogether. The main issue now is it needs to be a lot easier to turn quick launch on from installation.

    Like yourself i may one day find a use for pinning but for now I dont use it.
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  5. Posts : 8,370
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    You wouldn't have wanted to see the old XP and Vista desktops here once I was busy beta testing other things on those versions and the desktop kept seeing more and more shortcuts since the old quick launch bars were limited on space!

    By adding another bar on here I wouldn't need anything pinned to the taskbar if there was no purpose for that. The two working are a much needed relief from seeing a desktop filled with shortcuts all over the place.

    Talk about nightmares I'll glad Vista is now run on the Virtual PC beta!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Quick Launch - Enable or Disable-vista-desktop_sidebar.jpg   Quick Launch - Enable or Disable-vista-quick-launch.jpg  
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  6. Posts : 529
    windows 8.1 Pro x64

    well yeah, single row taskbars are too small :)

    however if you pinned all those icons on the windows 7 bar how much space would it take then?
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  7. Posts : 8,370
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    On the 7 taskbar you still run into a spacing problem while that offers about 90% of the space available compared to unlocking and stretching old bar using small icons only. The larger the icons the more space taken. That's when the always combine and combine when full options come into play there.

    The quick launch bars start off where the new taskbar as well as the old quick launch leave off. The real advantage is seen when only seeing a few on the taskbar leaving additional space available for adding more quick launch bars.

    Just imagine what you could have there with a good dozen new toolbars added on. No more need to even open up the Start>Programs since you could arrange the shortcuts created from everything there into a quick launch bar for each catagory.

    With the taskbar itself set to auto hide you then see your favorite wallpaper in full view with no desktop shortcuts present! That certainly leaves plenty of room for any gadgets you want on the desktop not covering over any shortcuts as you can see from how that looked on Vista.
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  8. Posts : 4
    Windows 7

    Night Hawk, you like the new ‘Windows7’ taskbar pinning thing; well if it works for you, that’s good, I’m happy for you. Advocate it; tell the world how wonderful you think it is, I will not stand in your way.

    I am all up for new ideas and developments, and by all means leave this new pinning setup as the standard ‘Windows7’ installation setup, Again, you will have no quibbles from me.

    But is too much to ask the Windows team to allow CHOICE?
    I have had to come to this forum and follow through an unnecessarily complicated “FIX” in order to put my PC back to the way I like it.

    I like my PC with the traditional QuickLaunch toolbar, I am relaxed with it. In contrast I found the ‘Pinning’ system irritating; it simply does not work for me (but I happily concede that I may yet find a use for it).

    All I am recommending is that when I right click on the taskbar an option is available to reinstate the ‘QuickLaunch’ toolbar. I am not trying to make you use it or like it.
    All I am trying to say is summed up in one word...


    I simply want the ability to “Easily CHOOSE” my user interface. The “FIX” that you offer on this forum works but is WAY OVERCOMPLICATED for many of Microsoft’s customers. They might not like what you like, and feel frustrated with the lack of “Easy CHOICE” that “Windows7” offers.

    Again, let me reiterate that I am not trying to make you Choose something you obviously don’t like.
    I want you to have the interface that works best for you, what you are happy with.

    Am I asking too much of Microsoft for a right click option that I can have my Preference, as you have yours?
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  9. Posts : 620

    The resulting taskbar is an evolution of the old taskbar.

    The designers saw what was wrong with it and made changes accordingly, why in the world would they put choices to revert the changes they made?

    Having two places to launch the same program was the primary reason for the changes made to the taskbar. Don't expect them to undo that this late in the game.
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  10. Posts : 71,551
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Ok guys. To each their own.

    This debate is done.
    Last edited by Brink; 25 Jun 2009 at 15:55.
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