Quick Launch - Enable or Disable

Boups said:

DarrellJ88 said:

Thank you for posting this tutorial, thank you for the detail, and thank you for making it despite whether or not you find the quicklaunch unnecessary. I personally don't see it as unnecessary because items being pinned to the taskbar are fairly large in comparison to quicklaunch icons, as many others have said, and because unopened items pinned to the taskbar get mixed in between opened items pinned to the taskbar. This to me is extremely annoying because I may not normally have certain programs open, but on an occasion if I get enough programs open that are before a program I may frequent, it moves the unopened icon away from where I'm normally used to it being. It's just extremely less efficient to me when things aren't where I left them, so to say.

I agree with that. I think that changing position of menu, toolbar or desktop items is totally unproductive. When you know where items are, you go and click them without thinking and searching. It becomes a reflex clicking. If the system changes the position of your items you have to search, read text (when you have them) or interpret icons (or, worse, you have to hover your icons and wait to get a description...).
For those reasons, I really like the new Office 2007's ribbons. Even if it requires a time to adapt, when you know where the functions are, you get acces to almost every function in two mouse clicks.

What I don't understand either is why Microsoft wants people to search their menu items and files. I don't why they think that users are so stupid, so unstrcuctured that they can't organize their files in folders and subfolders, and that they can't name their files so taht they can find them. I don't know why users should become dependant on search engines.
That's why I don't like the new taskbar and, worse, the new start menu. They are perhaps good for some people but we should have the choice to get the previous (not old) way of use.

I finish by : Thank you for that tutorial !

I don't think being unorganized and using the search is necessarily due to stupidity, I do that and sometimes it's more efficient, sometimes its annoying though, take the good with the bad I guess. I essentially save everything from browsers into the same folder, or basically save everything from certain programs into the same folders, like just a main folder, so it does get quite full and confusing looking for something. But search is relatively fast, I don't necessarily like the search in Windows 7/Vista, I liked the XP search better, but often times the files I need are one time use things anyways so searching yields decent efficiency for me. The only problem I have with this unorganized method is I end up wasting lots of hard drive space because everything is everywhere, and as I said most of the time they are one time use things, and I don't delete them right away thinking maybe I'll go back (even though I never do, I do this IRL too haha, packrat much?) Which in XP I used to just do a search based on file size of over like 10mb and wait for it to bring everything up and then just dedicate some time to clearing it all out. I guess efficiency just went right out the window

DarrellJ88 said:

I don't think being unorganized and using the search is necessarily due to stupidity, I do that and sometimes it's more efficient, sometimes its annoying though, take the good with the bad I guess. I essentially save everything from browsers into the same folder, or basically save everything from certain programs into the same folders, like just a main folder, so it does get quite full and confusing looking for something. But search is relatively fast, I don't necessarily like the search in Windows 7/Vista, I liked the XP search better, but often times the files I need are one time use things anyways so searching yields decent efficiency for me. The only problem I have with this unorganized method is I end up wasting lots of hard drive space because everything is everywhere, and as I said most of the time they are one time use things, and I don't delete them right away thinking maybe I'll go back (even though I never do, I do this IRL too haha, packrat much?) Which in XP I used to just do a search based on file size of over like 10mb and wait for it to bring everything up and then just dedicate some time to clearing it all out. I guess efficiency just went right out the window

Ok, I don't say that unorganized people are stupid but that Search Engines Manufacturers say "Don't even try to be organized, we 'give' you tools to find YOUR files". They try to create a dependency upon their tools, and that's what I don't like.
When you try to find something on the Www, you don't know exactly what you search and there are so many sites, so a search engine is the best solution.
But that's different when you try to find a file on your computer, among your files. You either know (perhaps approximatively) the file name or the date of the file and it's type. That's why I likes XP search better too.
If you want a "smart" search engine to be efficient to find files among your files, you have to tag all your files. If you don't have many files, you don't waste time to tag your files but you don't need a search engine to find them...
If you have a lot of files that you don't use very often, tagging is a very time consuming task. In that case, a "basic" search engine like the one in Win 95 (or XP or Atari ST GEM , ...) is efficient enough to find files by name (and type by the extention), date and size.
We have tools to organize files (folders, name and extentions) and to find them ("basic" search engine) for years now. These tools must be too simple for system vendors so they think that they have to hide file extensions so that users don't know the type of their files, that they have to show files in virtual aggregated folders (Libraries) so that users don't know where there files are physically on their drives, that they have not to provide structured help for their softwares (organized by chapters with a table of content) so that people have to use search features to find help... and so on.
The only reasons I see for that are either they think that people not able to manage data by theirselves or they try to create a dependency upon their tools so that people keep on buying new versions of their softwares. I don't mind as long as I can continue using simple tools that make me productive and as long as I have choice not to use those so called "smart" and not so efficient tools that make me waste time.
The official reason for thoses changes is "It's time to move on" (in other words "That's newer then that's better"), and I desagree whith that. I think that "If it's not broken, don't fix it".

moinmoin said:

Flowright138 said:

Mlad said:

Hey guys I have a problem. From time to time my quick launch toolbar dissappears. I haven't noticed if it dissappear after restart but i does. Can anyone help?

If you read earlier post it is discussed but still it is NOT solved yet.

Riotblade said:

I'm having the same issue under x86. The quick launch bar would disappear on reboot. However, if you terminate explorer.exe and then relaunch it, it appears again.

Thanks for the tips, I will surely give that a try.

Disable the language bar.
Control Panel / Region and Language tab keyboards and language
Or right-click on US, DE or what else.

For german user: deskmodder-Wiki

Sorry Riotblade...can you be more clear? How do you actually disable language bar? And does it really have something to do with it? Beside, I recently added the language toolbar and it still disappears (i have EN on the right corner next to notification icons). So I ain't sure if this is responsible, but it does not hurt to try, so how do you disable it? When you said "what else" I don't undersand you.

Brink said:

Hi Natri and Gary,

Were you guys able to get your Quick Launch working?

I was able to get mine to work - the tutorial was beautiful. I'm using the Classic theme, and more and more I'm getting my Windows 7 looking like good old Win2K! Thanks!

Raargh

thanks a lot dude.. u r really gr8 !
IT WORKS PERFECT ...

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit here. The Quick Launch is disappearing after reboot even with the theme saved and UAC off. So much for your statistics.

MS destroyed Windows by removing Quick Launch. I come from WinXP which I like A LOT more. People who don't miss QL are generally beginners and inexperienced computer users. For them it doesn't matter because they need 10 seconds to open a program anyway. But for us experienced users who multitask faster, open files by dragging them onto the QL, open multiple instances simultaneously, for us this removal is BAD.

By the way, if anyone has problems moving the Quick Launch toolbar to the left, it may be because you have the language bar open. Close it, move QL to the left and open the Language toolbar again from control panel.

Destroyed? lol