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Windows 7: Mouse Hover Makes Window Active - Enable

27 Nov 2009   #30
johngalt

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hide View Post
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Step #1:
Open regedit, go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop
Edit UserPreferenceMask value to be 9F 3E 07 80 12 00 00 00
Step #2:
Also in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop
Edit ActiveWndTrkTimeout, change 'Base' to Decimal and put in 150 as the 'Value Data'
Anyone have the default value ?

Cause it wasn't exactly that for me :
Quote:
"UserPreferencesMask"=hex:9e,3e,07,80,12,00,00,00
The 3e wasn't a 3e.
I just checked - I haven't done this as I prefer not to use X-mouse, so my settings are default - and that is exactly what I have for UserPreferenceMask: 9e 3e 07 80 12 00 00 00

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hide View Post
Thank you.
You're welcome. Next time, though, try to be a little nicer about your post - saying it "contains a bunch of crappy settings", while accurate from your POV, may not be for others' POV - it would have been easier to say that they changed a lot of other settings that you didn't want changed....




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27 Nov 2009   #31
hide

Seven 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hide View Post
Anyone have the default value ?
I just checked - I haven't done this as I prefer not to use X-mouse, so my settings are default - and that is exactly what I have for UserPreferenceMask: 9e 3e 07 80 12 00 00 00

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hide View Post
Thank you.
You're welcome. Next time, though, try to be a little nicer about your post - saying it "contains a bunch of crappy settings", while accurate from your POV, may not be for others' POV - it would have been easier to say that they changed a lot of other settings that you didn't want changed....
I'm certain I changed that part, i used his settings just for reverting to defaut (to try xmouse gizmo). May not be really important but i don"t know what is it doing.

The problem is that i trusted the work of a guy with all these "administrator" and "guru" things. But THAT is not guru at all. On my point of view, guru do clean work !
And yes it's accurate for everyone, no one want his window configuration, mouse, wallpaper, screensaver, and what else I don't know changed.

edit : And I don"t care of your rules, you can ban me if you like "crappy settings".
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27 Nov 2009   #32
johngalt

 

Or, it could be that he made a mistake. At the time of the posting (May 7, 2009, a full 6 months ago) he was neither - but since you are seeing this post now you think he is and always has been a guru.

Besides, if it was a major issue, don't you think someone would have already complained about it? Since no one had, it was obviously not a major issue for others.

Again, whether you trusted it or whatever, you can be nice. Oh, and btw - that is a part of the rules here too.
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05 Dec 2009   #33
studioCJF

XP and Win7
 
 

I think I found out the problem everyone is having with setting the delay...

After I re-read the original post and also googled this setting a bit I found out that the reg file you provided has a typo. Your key uses the word "Track" and it should be the letters "Trk"
(note bold text in keys below)

Your Key: "ActiveWndTrackTimeout"=dword:00000096
Correct Key: "ActiveWndTrkTimeout"=dword:00000096

Now what I don't know is are both keys original registry keys?
Or was your key added to the registry by merging your file?
If it is the latter then the key with the word "Track" can be deleted
Could someone verify if in fact both keys are part of the default registry?

I found that setting the delay to 150 was to fast for me so I changed it to 500 for comparison that was to slow... so know I'm using 250 which seams about right for me anyway...
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05 Dec 2009   #34
gregrocker

 

Thank you for reminding me where I made this change a few weeks ago (using another tip).

As it has turned out, this great idea has become one of the most annoying features I've experienced yet. I can't focus on a page because to move my mouse will change the focus to another page/app nearby.

Yesterday I had the calculator open doing addition from spreadsheet. So I would click on the calc to make it active window for keypad and the spreadsheet I'm copying from would disappear. Then I would go back to the spreadsheet and the calc would disappear. So I click on calc in taskbar but before I can get back to calc, just by traveling over the spreadsheet the calc disappears again. There was no way to get to calc without it disappearing until I parked it on the taskbar.

I finally had gotten so fed up with this, and with myself because I have learned the hard way over a year that Win7 is so perfectly proportioned it needs no tweaks, that I decided if I couldn't find the path back to get out of this tweak that I would repair install or clean install soon.

So thanks for bringing this tweak up again so I can take it off! I'm sure someone will find it useful, but that someone is not me.
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05 Dec 2009   #35
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

OTOH I really this tweak and it was one of the first things I looked for! You just need to set the delay appropriately so the focus change isn't instant and you can scoot your cursor over to the right window before you trigger the underlying one. Out of the box, 7 is too slow for me.
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05 Dec 2009   #36
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RogerR View Post
OTOH I really this tweak and it was one of the first things I looked for! You just need to set the delay appropriately so the focus change isn't instant and you can scoot your cursor over to the right window before you trigger the underlying one. Out of the box, 7 is too slow for me.
If I wanna move my mouse over here to this window behind you, all I gotta do is click on it to cover up our dialogue with that window..

What's better about having it do it on a timer without having to click?

Unsure of the concept.
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06 Dec 2009   #37
thenewguy

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
As it has turned out, this great idea has become one of the most annoying features I've experienced yet. I can't focus on a page because to move my mouse will change the focus to another page/app nearby.
What you want is alt-tab. Stop clicking the taskbar so much.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What's better about having it do it on a timer without having to click?

Unsure of the concept.
The point of this tweak is to move the input focus quickly and repeatedly between two windows, without changing which one is on top or below. Having to go back and forth, clicking each time, is a huge waste of time and effort. It's also impossible to prevent the windows from "popping up" when you click.
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07 Dec 2009   #38
studioCJF

XP and Win7
 
 

Quote:
The point of this tweak is to move the input focus quickly and repeatedly between two windows, without changing which one is on top or below. Having to go back and forth, clicking each time, is a huge waste of time and effort. It's also impossible to prevent the windows from "popping up" when you click.
I still have it set so that the focus/selected window comes to to the top. IMHO I just find it is more convenient to change windows with one less click and if the delay is just right it is minutely faster

Quote:
I think I found out the problem everyone is having with setting the delay...

After I re-read the original post and also googled this setting a bit I found out that the reg file you provided has a typo. Your key uses the word "Track" and it should be the letters "Trk"
(note bold text in keys below)

Your Key: "ActiveWndTrackTimeout"=dword:00000096
Correct Key: "ActiveWndTrkTimeout"=dword:00000096

Now what I don't know is are both keys original registry keys?
Or was your key added to the registry by merging your file?
If it is the latter then the key with the word "Track" can be deleted
Could someone verify if in fact both keys are part of the default registry?

I found that setting the delay to 150 was to fast for me so I changed it to 500 for comparison that was to slow... so know I'm using 250 which seams about right for me anyway...
Has anyone been able to corroborate/confirm the above from my original post #34
EDIT: BTW my original post was referring to Windows 7
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18 Dec 2009   #39
erple2

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by studioCJF View Post
Quote:
I think I found out the problem everyone is having with setting the delay...

After I re-read the original post and also googled this setting a bit I found out that the reg file you provided has a typo. Your key uses the word "Track" and it should be the letters "Trk"
(note bold text in keys below)

Your Key: "ActiveWndTrackTimeout"=dword:00000096
Correct Key: "ActiveWndTrkTimeout"=dword:00000096

Now what I don't know is are both keys original registry keys?
Or was your key added to the registry by merging your file?
If it is the latter then the key with the word "Track" can be deleted
Could someone verify if in fact both keys are part of the default registry?

I found that setting the delay to 150 was to fast for me so I changed it to 500 for comparison that was to slow... so know I'm using 250 which seams about right for me anyway...
Has anyone been able to corroborate/confirm the above from my original post #34
EDIT: BTW my original post was referring to Windows 7
I just tried it in Windows 7 Pro. I needed to set the DWORD to "ActiveWndTrkTimeout" to get that to work. I changed the DWORD back to "ActiveWndTrackTimeout" and the delay didn't occur. I checked by clicking on the uparrow thingy in the systray to see more info. Also, I can now see a small (but noticeable delay when hovering over another window.
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