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       #370

    q3) I think both with 'Solid State Doctor' and with 'Samsung Magician' one can perform a secure delete/wipe of the whole drive, but the point is - how to do it just before reinstalling OS. I guess the OP is the only way, no?
    A tip be watchful of the Magician software a while back I had an issue when my USB ports dropped out and by a stroke of luck a canny member knew what it was - that Magician software. I uninstalled it and back came my ports. You can always reinstall it after an event like that
    To be honest I personally do not use those add on softwares because a) that Magician for one is of not much use - well for me at least and b) I feel softwares like those can be handled using the Windows system
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    Win 7 x64
       #371

    ICIT2LOL said:
    q3) I think both with 'Solid State Doctor' and with 'Samsung Magician' one can perform a secure delete/wipe of the whole drive, but the point is - how to do it just before reinstalling OS. I guess the OP is the only way, no?
    A tip be watchful of the Magician software a while back I had an issue when my USB ports dropped out and by a stroke of luck a canny member knew what it was - that Magician software. I uninstalled it and back came my ports. You can always reinstall it after an event like that
    To be honest I personally do not use those add on softwares because a) that Magician for one is of not much use - well for me at least and b) I feel softwares like those can be handled using the Windows system
    I completely agree with you. The only reason I have Magician on board is cos I use it, as well as a plethora of some 3rd party tools to check ssd speed. That's all.

    And thanks for your tip! It's one to keep! :)

    Anything on Q1) and is the OP the only way to do a secure erase prior to reinstalling OS?
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    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #372

    Hi,
    I haven't had any issues with samsung magician :)
    My Acer had usb issue well before magician came along seeing it's going on 7 year old mother board I'm surprised it works at all
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    Win 7 x64
       #373

    As I said, I do realize that the physical speed won't change. What I was referring to was - wouldn't the drive work quicker or more efficient when secure delete is performed cos there would be less clutter in the way? I say clutter cos I knot that simply deleting or shift+deleting files does not really delete them forever, it generally only means the data blocks involved are flagged as not in use. That's where I was thinking that a secure delete would wipe everything clean and thus the drive would run faster. Right or wrong?
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    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #374

    Hi,
    The only items that make a drive work faster is what rpm it's rated to run at 5400 rpm/ 7200 rpm..
    All secure delete does is it does not send to the recycle bin to restore anything
    Space is just marked as available sooner or later and the space is over written.
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    Win 7 x64
       #375

    Sure ... RPMs have nothing to do with SSD's though, but I got your point. 10x for your input!
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    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #376

    Hi,
    Correct it was an example :)
    They do however have spec's for read and write
    Max Sequential ReadUp to 550 MBpsMax Sequential WriteUp to 520 MBps4KB Random ReadUp to 100,000 IOPS4KB Random WriteUp to 90,000 IOPS
    After that the firmware kicks in to do all of the work for making the space rewritable
    Other hardware cpu.... for the real speed :)
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  8. Posts : 89
    Win 7 x64
       #377

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Corect it was an example :)
    They do however have spec's for read and write
    Max Sequential ReadUp to 550 MBpsMax Sequential WriteUp to 520 MBps4KB Random ReadUp to 100,000 IOPS4KB Random WriteUp to 90,000 IOPS
    After that the firmware kicks in to do all of the work for making the space rewritable
    Other hardware cpu.... for the real speed :)
    Yes, yes, yes. I'm well aware of that. Let's not get into that, cos it's off topic and off of what I wanted to ask. All I wanted to know was sth about Secure Delete and now I know it. Thank you all for having contributed to my query! You guys are awesome and it's so nice to have you around for help.
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    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #378

    Hi,
    Glad we could be of help :)
    First thing that should be done is update the ssd's firmware and samsung magician makes that a simple task :)
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  10. Posts : 89
    Win 7 x64
       #379

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Glad we could be of help :)
    First thing that should be done is update the ssd's firmware and samsung magician makes that a simple task :)
    Ermmm ... I gotta STRONGLY object here. Remember what happened with nearly all the 850 Pros about 2 years ago when Samsung pushed a new firmware that could either be implemented via the Magician desktop utility or (I think) in the pre-boot environment? Well, that was a HUGE debacle and millions of ppl got their 850 Pros bricked completely after which Samsung asked to have them shipped back and maybe refunded and bla bla bla ... Nearly as bad as their tremendous FAIL with their Galaxy note 7. Actually just as bad, but it never got that much press. They concealed it well. So Samsung and especially their non-magical Magician software are definitely NOT to be trusted! Updating firmware ... mmm prolly a good idea but do it the right way, not via some dubious desktop utility.
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