SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

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  1. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
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       #300

    Hello Novice 4 Fun, welcome to Seven Forums!


    Since you prefer simplicity I would suggest a single Primary partition using Step #1.

    I'm pleased you like my site and thanks for the nod!
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  2. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #301

    Secure Erase or the Windows Diskpart tool?


    I just finished building my rig. Installed windows & ran my tests, achieved the clocks I wanted, etc...
    Now it's time for a clean final install of windows.

    According to my knowledge when an SSD has some writes on it. It's always best to use secure erase to regain the Out of Box Experience. However, when I was reading this tutorial I found out that I can use the CLEAN command via Diskpart, during Win 7 installation.

    So the question is, which is better? To boot from Parted Magic & use the secure erase tool, then proceed with the Windows 7 installation. Or if I used the Clean All command via Diskpart "accessing it by pressing SHIFT+F10 as described". Are they the same result in my case?
    Will the clean all command restore the SSD to it's original state?

    PLS note that my main goal is to get my SSD to its original performance. Not worried if someone can recover data. Not that I had lost any performance in the tests & benchmarks but there has been a fair amount of writes on the primary boot SSD.

    Thank you for taking the time to write such a tutorial
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  3. Posts : 71,980
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #302

    Hello Artman,

    Current SSDs can be treated the same as any HDD these days.

    To wipe the SSD, it would better to use the CLEAN command instead to minimize the number of unnecessary writes to it.

    As far as performance goes, you could use any disk defrag program that supports TRIM for SSDs to keep it optimized. TRIM is the SSD version of defrag. Usually about once a month is good.

    Hope this helps some, :)
    Shawn
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  4. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #303

    Brink said:
    Hello Artman,

    Current SSDs can be treated the same as any HDD these days.

    To wipe the SSD, it would better to use the CLEAN command instead to minimize the number of unnecessary writes to it.

    As far as performance goes, you could use any disk defrag program that supports TRIM for SSDs to keep it optimized. TRIM is the SSD version of defrag. Usually about once a month is good.

    Hope this helps some, :)
    Shawn
    Thanks Brink,
    PLS correct me if I'm wrong:
    So I'll just boot into the Win 7 DVD & wait till it loads then press Shift+F10 to Access the Command Prompt. Select the SSD #, then Clean all "Which will clear & resets everything on the NAND chips". Then exit, & continue with the Windows install, without the alignment procedure cause, it's like I'm installing Win. on a new SSD. Did I miss anything??

    By the way, what did you mean by "you could use any disk defrag program that supports TRIM for SSDs"

    Man I read your system specs & that's what I call a beast. I thought mine is nice until I read yours. How people choose their rigs says a lot about them
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  5. Posts : 71,980
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #304

    A SSD can be treated just like a HDD for installations.

    You would want to use "Clean" instead of "Clean all". "Clean" does the same thing as "Clean all", but without the long secure erase that uses a lot of read and writes on the SSD.

    If you like, you could also just start the installation, delete all partitions at step 8 in the tutorial below, then continue on with installing Windows 7 on the SSD.
    Normally, Windows 7 will auto-detect that it's a SSD and do what's in the link below automatically for you, but it wouldn't hurt to double check. This will also provide some more info about a SSD and Windows 7 to help.
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  6. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 x64
       #305

    Would either command; clean or clean all remap bad sectors? I am planning on doing a reinstall on a failing HDD but am trying to make it as stable as possible.
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  7. Posts : 71,980
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #306

    Hello Bancosrs,

    If you have any bad sectors that cannot be recovered, then they will be marked to no longer be used when you format the drive.

    If you have many, then you might consider replacing the drive before it dies and takes your data with it.
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  8. Posts : 125
    windows 7 home premium 64bit
       #307

    Dear BFK and Brink,,

    i recently use SSD... when i want to reinstall windows the 2nd 3rd or 4th time in the future with the same SSD, do i need to do secure erase or just installing from windows 7 installation enough...? there are differing opinions when i google this subject

    Also regarding the TRIM functionality to works on the SSD during win 7 installation...when i reinstall... do i only need to go to drive options => delete,

    or do i need to go drive options => delete => format,, to trigger the trim to work?

    i dont partition my ssd


    cheers,

    KP

    ===
    sorry to put the Qestion here instead of at this thread SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
    Last edited by rovopio; 21 Apr 2013 at 15:42.
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  9. Posts : 71,980
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #308

    Hello KP,

    You really only need to treat a SSD just like HDD when it comes to installing Windows. There's no difference. :)

    Clean Install Windows 7
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  10. Posts : 7
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #309

    @Brink
    Thanks for the help. The reinstall process went like a charm. However, I'm wondering whether I install the Intel RST. There is no RAID in my rig. Just SSDs & JBOD
    Any gain or no need??
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