Multi Router Network - Configure

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  1. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
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       #30

    @Zinic.

    First of all, your big problem there is that you have your two IP's in different subnet ranges. The first 3 blocks of numbers should be the same. Only the last set should be different.

    So, for instance: my gateway has an IP of 192.168.1.1 this means that all devices connected to it, MUST have an IP of 192.168.1.xxx if I were to set it to 192.168.2.xxx then it would be outside the subnet and fail.

    To answer your second question,yes I forgot to mention that on some routers, it is simply called "Firewall". If you turn that off that will disable NAT.

    Looking at the screen of your Dlink router, I'm a little confused. I was going to say that it should be possible to disable NAT. However, on your screenshot, on my Dlink routers, that is exactly where my NAT settings are. a quick google on SPI suggests that is a Firewall, but not NAT. However as said above, turning "Firewall" off on the Belkin will disable NAT, so use that one s your switch.

    On the subject of the SSID's. It is quite possible to give them different SSID's and it will work fine. The reason that I personally recommend using the same SSID's is because that way, I only have one password, and it doesn't matter where I am, I will connect fine.

    What you may find if you set different SSID's is whichever router has "preference" in your wireless settings may connect automatically, whether it has the strongest signal or not.

    I hope this helps :) If not, let me know and I'll try to help further.
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  2. Posts : 38
    Windows 7 64bit
       #31

    severedsolo said:
    @Zinic.

    First of all, your big problem there is that you have your two IP's in different subnet ranges. The first 3 blocks of numbers should be the same. Only the last set should be different.

    So, for instance: my gateway has an IP of 192.168.1.1 this means that all devices connected to it, MUST have an IP of 192.168.1.xxx if I were to set it to 192.168.2.xxx then it would be outside the subnet and fail.

    To answer your second question,yes I forgot to mention that on some routers, it is simply called "Firewall". If you turn that off that will disable NAT.

    Looking at the screen of your Dlink router, I'm a little confused. I was going to say that it should be possible to disable NAT. However, on your screenshot, on my Dlink routers, that is exactly where my NAT settings are. a quick google on SPI suggests that is a Firewall, but not NAT. However as said above, turning "Firewall" off on the Belkin will disable NAT, so use that one s your switch.

    On the subject of the SSID's. It is quite possible to give them different SSID's and it will work fine. The reason that I personally recommend using the same SSID's is because that way, I only have one password, and it doesn't matter where I am, I will connect fine.

    What you may find if you set different SSID's is whichever router has "preference" in your wireless settings may connect automatically, whether it has the strongest signal or not.

    I hope this helps :) If not, let me know and I'll try to help further.
    Alright. I will give this a try again, and when I was setting my routers ip, I did make them both 192.168.1.xxx. I will try using my Belkin as switch, and it might work. Thanks again, and if any problems arise, I will post them.
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  3. Posts : 38
    Windows 7 64bit
       #32

    Alright. It seems I got everything to work. I just had to unplug the modem a lot, as well as reset the belkin router a lot, cause for some reason, it wasn't resetting. Thanks for the help.
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  4. hjd
    Posts : 1
    Windows XP 32bit
       #33

    Hi Martin,

    I wanted to connect a wifi Telkom (South Africa) router to the gateway, a Dlink router without wifi, to provide wifi to the rest of the house. Having successfully accomplished that via your tutorial makes acknowledgement thereof essential. Thanks for that, especially for those who are not very techsavvy.

    The tutorial worked, though I found a few hitches.

    1. I could not connect, and could not figure out why, however I read somewhere about the MAC address filter having to be disabled.
    2. It is not clearly stated, for the two left-handed among us that the profile name should be a word such as Home, while the network name is provided for.
    3. It was quite a challange to find the disable point for the NAT, which I am sure will differ from router to router, thus indicating where to find it would not be helpful for those using other routers.

    Having done this, connection was flawless.


    Thanks again for the tutorial,

    hjd
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  5. Posts : 1
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
       #34

    I know this is very late, but I have no idea hwow to change the range of DCHP adresses... Can anyone tell me how?
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  6. Posts : 38
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
       #35

    Pangaea said:
    I know this is very late, but I have no idea hwow to change the range of DCHP adresses... Can anyone tell me how?
    Via the router you have selected to be the dhcp server. The other router must have disabled the dhcp server, as there will be conflicts.
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  7. Posts : 17
    windows 7 professional (student download)
       #36

    Jonathan_King said:
    Nice tut Martin. May I ask, what is the purpose of a multi-router setup?

    Hi Johnathan, I just signed up with Charter as my ISP and they do not install wireless routers anymore (at least for now). So I directed their router into an old D-Link DI-724GU wireless office router. So there is another reason for two routers?
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  8. Posts : 38
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
       #37

    puddleglum said:
    So there is another reason for two routers?
    To balance the load between routers. For example router 1 trains the adsl line and offers dhcp and nat services and router 2 offers wireless.
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  9. Posts : 43
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #38

    iseeuu said:
    wallyinnc said:
    Very nice tutorial Martin
    Do you know if there is a way to connect the router to the switch wirelessly, like a repeater would? I don't think they can "talk" that way, can they?
    Wally;

    For a home network, not all switches or access points can function as a repeater. For those that can, as I understand, you give up half your bandwidth because a wireless repeater must now receive the original signal, then rebroadcast the signal to the computer. Then from the computer, it must again receive the signal, then rebroadcast it to the 'gateway' and the Internet Connection. A 'wired bridge' to a wireless access point avoids this bandwidth limitation.

    Of course there is the more expensive 'commercial' equipment but for most home users the cost is just to much.

    Cheers!
    Robert
    Hi all,

    It seems that a wired connection between the 2 routers makes very good sense, and has been asked by someone else here, that this process isn't always the most convenient and that a wireless connection between the 2 routers would be alot easier.
    However as explained it would (if possible) not yield the best results.

    My question here is.. is it possible to setup both routers say in a multi-level house, Modem Router A (main router used with a wired PC and wireless) on the ground floor, and Router B setup upstairs.

    Both modem/routers to be setup with the same settings, but only one modem/router to be active at any given time.

    For example I stay downstairs most of the day and use my computer/laptop here. At night I go to my bedroom, I switch "off" the Modem/router A (downstairs), and switch "on" modem/router B (upstairs) to get signal in my bedroom?

    In theory could this work ????

    Cheers
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  10. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #39

    thankyou!
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