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Windows 7: How to put VirtualPC & XP Mode on non OS drive

06 Aug 2011   #11
ElectricRider

Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Enhanced
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
The OP has asked for advice on how to install Windows Virtual PC and XP mode on another drive, not opinions on otherware.
That's right. And since I know he Can do what he wants with VMLite I suggested that to fix his problem. I gave him an option I know should work. I do not know the same will work with Virtual PC because I don't use it. It had been over a week before anyone answered the poor fellow. I felt it was best to give him an option that I know should work other than letting the guy still hang out there with no answers.


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06 Aug 2011   #12
seavixen32

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit
 
 

Without wishing to get drawn into an argument over the whys and wherefores of one system over another, I gave up on XP Mode and Virtual PC because XP ran very slowly, even with 2GB of RAM allocated to the virtual machine.

I have recently downloaded VMLite and run XP Mode under it with 3GB of RAM and the difference in performance is quite remarkable. I'm very impressed with it.
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06 Aug 2011   #13
Kari

 

Virtual PC is not an application per se, it is rather a Windows update and as such it is not installed on Program Files folder. You can for instance not find it on a list of installed programs; instead it is to be found on the list of installed Windows updates.

Most of the Virtual PC components are located in <System_Drive>\Windows\Winsxs folder. Please do not mess with this folder!

XP mode is a completely other story. It is a normal application which can be installed wherever you want to. You can change the installation folder when installing. It can be on an external drive, too.

Kari
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06 Aug 2011   #14
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
The OP has asked for advice on how to install Windows Virtual PC and XP mode on another drive, not opinions on otherware.
Exactly! Whether you like XP Mode or not is irrelevent; the OP is using XP Mode, and asked a specific question about XP Mode.... Not WM Ware.

Let's try and help him with that problem.

And I would look to Kari as he's pretty good with XP Mode.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
XP mode is a completely other story. It is a normal application which can be installed wherever you want to. You can change the installation folder when installing. It can be on an external drive, too.

Kari
My two cents.
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06 Aug 2011   #15
ElectricRider

Windows 7 64bit Home Premium Enhanced
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
The OP has asked for advice on how to install Windows Virtual PC and XP mode on another drive, not opinions on otherware.
Exactly! Whether you like XP Mode or not is irrelevent; the OP is using XP Mode, and asked a specific question about XP Mode.... Not WM Ware.

Let's try and help him with that problem.
Yes, and I was doing just that. A lot of people do not understamd that all XP Mode IS, is a standard Virtual Environment, Virtual Hard Drive, Virtual Hard Disk, that happens to contain an operating system. There is nothing special about it except that it comes with a few tweaks that help it to be cross integrated into the host OS. To run XP mode you must have 2 things, the XP mode VHD file and a virtualizarion program. Microsoft Virtual PC is such a virtualization program and is set up to work with these extra features but does a poor job of it.

VMLite was designed to overcome the poor performance and limitations of Virtual PC when using it to run XP Mode.

Quote:
(Question asked by a user)

Does VMLite run faster or use less memory than virtual pc? What other advantages?

Yes, VMLite runs faster. I am not sure about memory, since I seldom use vpc.

( Answer by Admin)

These are the main pros and cons of VMLite.

Pros:

(1) Runs faster. No RDP/RemoteApp is getting in the way.

(2) no requirement for VT-x or AMD-V

(3) supports more virtual disk formats

(4) vpc has a disk capacity limit of 127G, while VMLite has a limit of 2TB. 127G is way too small to run virtual machines converted from a physical computer.

(5) supports 64-bit guests, vpc only works with 32-bit guest OSes.

(6) supports multiple virtual CPUs, whereas vpc only works with a single vcpu.

(7) better and faster graphics. VMLite supports 32-bit true colors, and supports 3D/2D acceleration from version 3.1.2. VPC seems to have only 16-bit colors, and no support for 3D/2D. For example, if you play Google Earth in vpc, it will be very slow. Another example, you won't be able to play SecondLife in VPC, whereas VMLite 3.1.2 has no problems in playing SecondLife.

(8) VMLite file sharing is much faster than vpc, since we don't use tcp/ip to transfer files, instead we forward kernel level IRPs between host and vm, and between VMs.

Cons:

(1) VMLite does not support USB devices at the moment, while VPC/XP Mode has strong supports for USB devices. (We are working on it, takes quite some time, though)

(2) VPC/XP Mode does better job to integrate individual virtual apps, with taskbar integration. We are implementing this feature on VMLite too.

In summary, after we implement USB and single application mode, VMLite will be superior to VPC in every aspect.

VMLite vs virtual pc - VMLite

Both of the two "Cons" above were fixed in an update, so XP Mode running through VMLite is superior to running it through Virtual PC in every way. To lessen problems while using XP Mode I recommend anyone use VMLite to run XP mode.

You CAN run XP Mode with any other Virtualization software such as VMWare or VirtualBox but you will be missing some of those features, However, now Virtual Box and VMware is starting to put those features into their products as well. It really does not matter what program you use to run XP Mode.. it's not tied down to Virtual PC by it's license agreement. So I helped the OP with his problem the best way possible. As mentioned above you cannot install Virtual PC onto another drive because it doesnt install as a program, so my answer would help the Op the best while allowing him to maintain full functionality with the XP Mode integration features..
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