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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
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    I still have a few old boats around here with 98 and one case I have to clean off for an XP/98 dual boot since the board and remaining hardwares never saw Vista updates.
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       #42

    Thanks, seems still some needs for converting windows 98/Me to vm. These two systems have very different kernel driver architecture than NT/XP series. Quite hard to make the virtual disk driver to work on 98/Me. There could be 2 conversions, first convert live disk to some intermediate format, then cpnvert to virtual disk format on a newer PC where vm will be running.
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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #43

    It would be something to see an older Fat based version running on VM on the 64bit 7 simply to run some of the real old stuff! I've been contemplating formatiing a usb flash drive here to Fat 16 to see if I could get a 95 or 98 installation to go on using the Portable Virtual Box there if that will even run on anything older then Fat 32 which would limit that to 98.
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    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #44

    Hi there

    Try Windows 3.11 on a vm on a USB stick.

    To create the vm get the windows 3.11 image from Technet - it's STILL there believe it or not and then in your vm mount the image as a Virtual floppy and boot to install the OS. (vmware workstation)

    I haven't tried the latest version of vmware workstation - you need to ensure that the Virtual Bios can support booting from a floppy disk to initially create the vm.

    The usb stick also needs to be FAT formatted (not sure about whether this HAS to be done as the virtual I/O should handle all this stuff).

    I did have this working a while ago but I created the vm when I was running Windows XP.

    Actually I don't think the USB stick has to be FAT formatted -- I've got a NTFS formatted usb stick which has a Linux VM on it which I run from W7 X-64 - so the Virtual Bios / Virtual Application software obviously handles all the I/O calls.


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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #45

    Download from TechNet? I don't think so. Besides I still have 3.1 sitting on a set of 3.5" floppies here already. I'm more inclined to try 95 or 98 there however since those are on cd.
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    Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
       #46

    he meant 3.11 which is one lower from 3.1...
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    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #47

    Hi there
    the trouble with a floppy disk installation is that unless you have a physical device (I actually have an old USB floppy disk device which is bootable) you might have problems ejecting / mounting a new disk from an image that the windows installation will be able to access.

    However as far as the FAT device is concerned -- not an issue since it's the VIRTUAL internal disk that the guest sees that needs to be formatted correctly.

    To the HOST W7 installation this is just a "bog standard" application file which can be created on the Host's file system whatever it is.

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    jimbo
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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #48

    darkassain said:
    he meant 3.11 which is one lower from 3.1...
    Unfortunately that also requires a TechNet subscription in order to download anything there. As floppy drives I have an internal drive in a 3.5" to 5.25" adapter that came with the case here before ending up with several flash drives since the system was first built.
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  9. Posts : 262
    windows 7
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       #49

    Since there are still demands on converting Windows 95/98/Me physical machines to virtual machines, we have spent quite some efforts to implement a VxD virtual disk driver for these old systems. Using this driver, you can mount .vmdk, .vhd, and .vdi image file on 95/98/Me PCs, after that performing live P2V is very easy. Will provide the disk utilities as free download after more testing. Our P2V covers all Windows systems, from 95 to Windows 7.
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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
       #50

    That will be something to have a look at once you have it far enough along. I seem to have ended up with some spare drive space for testing anyways!
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