XP Mode slow -- try (Free) Unity from vmware

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  1. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
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       #31

    HughShaw said:
    I really love VMware player! I got StarCraft working in XP Mode here, I'm sure other games will be no problem. So yes, it's confirmed that VMware can handle games built for XP.
    Hi there
    You'll do better as well with games if you increase the size of the default VRAM (Virtual video graphics RAM). Make it 64 MB instead of the default 16MB.

    Add a line in the .vmx config file - I've posted the details below

    ...........................
    ide1:0.autodetect = "FALSE"
    ide1:0.allowGuestConnectionControl = "FALSE"
    tools.upgrade.policy = "manual"
    scsi0:1.present = "TRUE"
    scsi0:1.fileName = "Windows 7_pro x64-0.vmdk"
    scsi0:1.redo = ""
    floppy0.present = "FALSE"
    ide1:0.startConnected = "TRUE"
    svga.vramSize = "64000000"

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Posts : 308
    Windows 7 Professional (x64)
       #32

    Thanks for the tip! Do you recommend the RAM at 512 and to use 1 processor core? (I tried messing with this, but it didn't seem to notice a difference)
    Last edited by HughShaw; 22 Nov 2009 at 16:08.
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  3. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #33

    Generally speaking...I would use as little RAM as possible and stick with 1 CPU until you get processor bound. This way you have as much RAM as possible for your actual HOST OS. Best practices for CPU's says to utilize 1 for as long as you can as there is extra overhead in scheduling for 2 CPU's and if your apps doen't really utilize it...your performance can marginally go down. Probably not enough to notice...though :)
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  4. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
    Thread Starter
       #34

    Hi there

    On typical HOME systems lack of RAM in a VM is not normally an issue when running just one or even maybe 2 small VM's. (Assuming you have a 4GB RAM system or bigger).

    The biggest bottleneck BY FAR is the I/O subsystem - mind you this is part of the system that is most neglected even on the HOST.

    The reason for suggesting a slight increase in the VRAM for the virtual video adapter is that you won't be able to run AERO or play many games with the default 16MB (vmware WKS7 or vmware player V3).

    To overcome the disk i/o problem have the vhd's for your VM's on the FASTEST disks you have --even better if you can place the VM's on disks with their own disk controllers rather than using controllers on the MOBO's.

    If you are running VM's you should try and "quiesce" the HOST as much as possible. Just suspend any unnecessary HOST applications while running a VM -- that's why it's better using a SERVER for VM's - again however another issue.

    About the only app I run when testing VM's is just a TV application (uses minimal Host resources with its own PCI card) and maybe some email.

    Don't run a load of Photoshop or Video editing apps for example on a Host while testing VM's if you want decent performance.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Posts : 169
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #35

    pparks1 said:
    I installed the final released version of Windows XP Mode on my Windows 7 Ultimate box at work. It runs an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0Ghz, 4GB of RAM and a Western Digital Caviar 500GB hard drive.

    Windows XP Mode boot times: 48 seconds
    Windows XP Mode boot time after conversion into VMWare Player 3.0: 23 seconds

    This is the exact same image, after running through the VMWare Converter utility. As you can see above, it boots 2x as fast with VMWare over the XP Mode.

    Unfortunately, doing it this way requires you to reactivate XP. So, starting from the base image and being pre-activated is your best option. The results above will still be applicable with a clean build..I have proven that before in testing.

    I'd like to get a little clarification please. In another post you stated -

    pparks1 said:
    Yes, from within the VMWare Player, go to File and there is an option to convert your XP Mode hard drive right there.
    So if I decide to use VMWare Player do I have to use the vCenter Converter or not? Also, is Unity the same thing as clicking "File > Import Windows XP Mode VM" from within Player?
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  6. Posts : 9
    Windows 7
       #36

    Well I've tried VMWare Player and Sun's Virtual Box and both don't do what I want. I think the only option is to try Win7 Virtual XP but I have to upgrade to Win7 Pro. Before I spend the $89 I wish I knew if it would work.

    I'm trying to access 2 extra slave storage drives from the virtual pc, and I need the virtual pc to install a DVR video card that only runs on 32 bit.

    I have Windows 7 64 Bit. and want to install XP Pro on the Virtual. Anyone think the Windows Virtual will work?
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