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Windows 7: Cannot log into XP Mode

24 Nov 2009   #11
crimson

Windows 7 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Crimson, it's true what you say. However, XP Mode is intented to business users and in the business world nobody can even think of using Windows without the password.
Wrong. In business or for whatever use. If somebody does exactly what I did disabling password in user accounts, XP mode basically becomes unusable. Therefore, it is an issue with XP mode. Not the user. Users whether in business or not should have the option to disable passwords without problem. If not, then the ability to disable the password should not be there. Eithe way, the option to disble password is there, and messes XP Mode up when you do it. That is a glitch.


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don't create any additional accounts and XP Mode logs you always automatically in with the default XPMuser credentials.
I never created additional accounts. I only disabled passwrd for XPMuser.


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There is a way to use XP Mode without the password. You just have to disable the integration features. If you do so, then my question is why do you need the XP Mode? Without the integration features it's just a toy.
XP Mode is important in order to install and run XP software that isn't compatible with W7.
It doesn't matter if you're using XP, Vista, or W7, when you install the OS, they always force you to create a default user instead of give you the choice. This is probably meant for users who don't know what they're doing. Ever since I started using XP, I always installed it, logged in as Administrator, and delete the default user and whatever folders are associated with it. Same goes for W7. I use only Administrator with no users. If I do have a password, it's to prevent my psycho roommate from sneaking into my room and reading my diary which is also password protected. Otherwise, I leave the password off so that Windows logs on automatically when I boot my computer up. I have never ever ever used anything other than Administrator as my main and only account. It's pointless to have any other account unless you have other people using the same computer that you want to setup extra user accounts for. If you're the only user, it is a totally pointless waste of time to use any account other than Administrator.


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24 Nov 2009   #12
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

You have to understand the way XP Mode and the Integration features work. They use Remote Desktop to create the integration between host and guest. As it is, to connect to a Windows machine the user account must have a password or the setting it Local Security Policy must be changed. Not a glitch or bug, the way it always worked.

If you turn off the Integration features it can be used like a traditional virtual machine guest. And then you can access the machine without a password.
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24 Nov 2009   #13
crimson

Windows 7 Retail
 
 

Of course it is a glitch. I logged into XP Mode. Then, I turned off the password. Then it stopped working. That should not happen. I don't care if it uses remote desktop or not. This should not happen. It should either allow me to take off the password without crashing. Or if that is not possible, there should be no option to do remove the password. If, removing password causes it to crash while integration is enabled, why have the option to remove it? Because it is a glitch.

I might make a software where the user clicks a button, and a picture of a ball pops up. Why not make it so that the user clicks the button, and the software crashes? That is what is going on here. User clicks a button, and XP Mode crashes. Glitch. You're claiming that it is not a glitch because the user is not supposed to click the button. Not realistic. Anything that causes a software to crash when the user does something should not be there.

This is the first time I'm hearing about changing a setting in Local Security Policy. What do you mean? So what is the purpose of having integration features on? If I can do everything with it off, I might as well just turn it off.
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24 Nov 2009   #14
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crimson View Post
Of course it is a glitch. I logged into XP Mode. Then, I turned off the password. Then it stopped working. That should not happen. I don't care if it uses remote desktop or not. This should not happen. It should either allow me to take off the password without crashing. Or if that is not possible, there should be no option to do remove the password. If, removing password causes it to crash while integration is enabled, why have the option to remove it? Because it is a glitch.
Because it cannot stop you. It is not a glitch to change a setting you have permission to change. Just like it is not a security threat to shutdown the computer if you have permission to shutdown the computer. The computer cannot stop you from harming the computer.

I mentioned the Local Security Policy setting here:
https://www.sevenforums.com/383096-post11.html
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25 Nov 2009   #15
crimson

Windows 7 Retail
 
 

Glitch or not glitch. Whatever you want to call it. There is an option to remove the password. And this option causes the software to crash. Either the software shoult not crash when this option is chosen. Or this option should not be there. It is a glitch or whatever you want to call it to give users an option for something that causes the program to crash.

Other than that, you're saying that changing this Local Security Policy setting will allow me to turn the password off without crashing the program?
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25 Nov 2009   #16
HughShaw

Windows 7 Professional (x64)
 
 

I also made this same mistake when first using XPM. I've since moved on to the much faster VMware Player 3.0 and have not looked back. You can configure Player to log on without a password as well as do things XPM never could such as play games or use 3D acceleration. It also uses up less space with the same amount of programs installed.

Edit: Someone else has said that you will be able to log in and change the password back if you disable integration features.
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16 Dec 2009   #17
Jhampa

Win 7
 
 

Hi,
I have 3 or 4 posts here now but hopefully Kari will notice. I have the virtual machine running, the xp mode running. I can add in new xp mode users so i have xp mode 1, 2, etc. I cannot get the sucker to open to the xp desktop. I read the posts here and the only user in my system is me. I dont have a XPMuser account? So how do i start XP mode? It is there, it is running or hibernating but i cant get it to open up?
Thanks for any help.
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16 Dec 2009   #18
Kari

 

XPMUser is an user account automatically created when installing XP Mode. If no logon credentials are saved, you should see this when starting XP Mode:

Cannot log into XP Mode-xpmuser.png

Just give the password you chose when installing XP Mode.

I do not understand what you mean with this:
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I can add in new xp mode users so i have xp mode 1, 2, etc.
Only way to add XP Mode users is to start XP Mode, go to XP's Control Panel and add user accounts there. If you have done this, click Use another account when logon window opens (see the image above) and give that username and password.

To see which logon credentials are saved, if any, check the settings of XP Mode.

Cannot log into XP Mode-xpm_logon_credentials.png

Kari


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22 Dec 2009   #19
Jhampa

Win 7
 
 

Hi there, I am back. Ok, did a full format, reloaded things exactly as I was told and XP mode worked. Loaded in programs to XP, they worked. Next day I could access them, they worked. Today I added in my office programs for Win 7 programs, etc, and suddenly XP does not want to work anymore. It does not come out of hibernation, just like before. This is a major drag for me as I need both systems for my work. Any new ideas of commentaries out there with this problem?
JS
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23 Dec 2009   #20
Kari

 

What is the error message you get?
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