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Windows 7: Post your questions to the MSFT Virtualization team

28 Jan 2010   #51
James O'Neill

 

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Second Virtual PC problem, when I right click on a large set of data off of a network location and hit copy in the host machine and if I right click later in the guest machine it automatically starts to copy that data into a temp folder somewhere as if I want to copy the data into the virtual machine. This can be super annoying since I'm often moving files or sets of files between 400 Mb and 12 Gb. Especially annoying since if you hit cancel it just restarts copying the files to the temp location...
We'll take a note of that one and see if we can get it in as change for a later version.
You could prevent it by disabling clipboard integration but that is not a nice answer


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28 Jan 2010   #52
Kari

 

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I know this is a little late, but yes - Download Windows XP Mode. I'm using it as we speak. Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

Yes I know this is the download for XP Mode, but you can also download Virtual PC from there as well since XP Mode uses it. Once you select your OS, the download link will pop up

The bigger question (for those wondering) Is can your PC run Virtual PC? Windows Virtual PC: Configure BIOS
Just be aware we have Virtual PC 2007 and newer better Windows Virtual PC which is based on the same technology. Both have variants for 64 bit host operating systems but they can only support 32 bit guest operating systems.
Hi James,

I'm not sure I get what you're saying?

I'm currently using XP mode with Virtual PC on Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Virtual PC seems to be working just fine. Perhaps I'm missing something, or not understanding Virtual PC.

Thanks.
Sygnus, you are running an x86 XP Mode guest on an x64 host. The host can of course be x64, but the guest only x86.

Kari
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28 Jan 2010   #53
James O'Neill

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James O'Neill View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post

I know this is a little late, but yes - Download Windows XP Mode. I'm using it as we speak. Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

Yes I know this is the download for XP Mode, but you can also download Virtual PC from there as well since XP Mode uses it. Once you select your OS, the download link will pop up

The bigger question (for those wondering) Is can your PC run Virtual PC? Windows Virtual PC: Configure BIOS
Just be aware we have Virtual PC 2007 and newer better Windows Virtual PC which is based on the same technology. Both have variants for 64 bit host operating systems but they can only support 32 bit guest operating systems.
Hi James,

I'm not sure I get what you're saying?

I'm currently using XP mode with Virtual PC on Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Virtual PC seems to be working just fine. Perhaps I'm missing something, or not understanding Virtual PC.

Thanks.
XP mode runs the 32 bit version of XP.

We have a builds of both Virtual PC 2007 , and Windows Virtual PC for both 64 bit and 32 bit host OSes (that's Windows 7 in your case). But the Guest OS you run inside can only be 32 bit (32 bit XP in your case). You can't use Virtual PC to run (say) 64 bit Vista on 64bit Windows 7.But you could use it to run 32 bit vista on 64 bit 7

Have I made it harder to understand with all that .
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28 Jan 2010   #54
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

The only comment that I have about this subject is that the primary reason that I bought the Pro version of Windows 7 is to be able to impliment XP Mode, but I found out too late that isn't possible on my rigs, because the CPUs do not support virtualization.

Is it possible that this might change in the future, so as to not require CPU support?
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28 Jan 2010   #55
James O'Neill

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
By the way, I love Hyper V, snapshots are the best, major life/time saver. Similarly I'm happy to see the implementation of the Undo Disk in Virtual PC, it's also a great life/time saver. Thanks. Are there future plans to create some sort of VirtualPC Integration Components Cleanup application? I've often found people giving me VHD's they've created and forgotten to remove the VPC Integration stuff before giving it to me and then sometimes I can't upgrade them, uninstall them etc and I'm forced to go give it back to them with their Virtual PC XXXX and have them remove it etc.
I understand the pain of this. In the past I have installed Virtual PC / Virtual Server on a hyperV box (not fast, not supported and not recommended) so I can boot the VM up, remove the old integration components and then boot under Hyper-V and add the new ones. VPC / VS virtual machines with up-to-date ICs don't have a problem, the ICs can be removed under HyperV. It's a known pain point - the usual "it might go in a future version but we have no plans to share right now" rule applies, and I'm not involved in making the decsion but I'd think this is quite a low priority.
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28 Jan 2010   #56
James O'Neill

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
The only comment that I have about this subject is that the primary reason that I bought the Pro version of Windows 7 is to be able to impliment XP Mode, but I found out too late that isn't possible on my rigs, because the CPUs do not support virtualization.

Is it possible that this might change in the future, so as to not require CPU support?
We've heard this feedback, so it is one of the many things that are under consideration for the future. Unfortunately we can't share anything new on future features at the moment, so it's not possible to say yes/no or even probably/probably not.
When there is news of future versions I will post it on my blog (James O'Neill's blog).
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28 Jan 2010   #57
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

This is too much fun, Thanks a ton guys for being here and answering all of the random questions that I can think of. Next question, every once in a while I'm developing something, or testing something that is time specific. Is there even a slightest chance of an implementation of changing the client's time without it reverting right back to the host's time? (I'm not sure if this is tied to the BIOS' time, or the actual host's time)
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28 Jan 2010   #58
Edwin Yuen

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
This is too much fun, Thanks a ton guys for being here and answering all of the random questions that I can think of. Next question, every once in a while I'm developing something, or testing something that is time specific. Is there even a slightest chance of an implementation of changing the client's time without it reverting right back to the host's time? (I'm not sure if this is tied to the BIOS' time, or the actual host's time)
If you do not have the Integration Components installed, the time is set upon start up but doesn't keep the time in sync, so you can change it from there. I'm pretty sure that this works.
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28 Jan 2010   #59
Kari

 

What would you VPC geeks recommend to speed up XP Mode? Assigning more RAM, or does it have any effect after 1 gig? What else?

Kari
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28 Jan 2010   #60
Edwin Yuen

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
What would you VPC geeks recommend to speed up XP Mode? Assigning more RAM, or does it have any effect after 1 gig? What else?

Kari
More RAM is useful IF you are running out of physical RAM when running XP Mode. Otherwise, faster disks such as SSDs have a great impact on VM performance.
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