Installed program in XP Mode and no shortcut Windows 7

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  1. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Professional x64 Retail
       #1

    Installed program in XP Mode and no shortcut Windows 7


    Hello All,

    I've got Virtual PC/Windows XP installed and working, but when I install a program in Windows XP mode and create a shortcut in the "All Users" folder I don't see it in the Windows 7 start menu.. as a matter of fact I don't even have the "Virtual Windows XP Applications" folder in the Win 7 start menu.

    Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    Chris
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  2. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Professional x64 Retail
    Thread Starter
       #2

    I've been trying to get an XP application to run in Win7 with no luck, that's why I got interested in using the XP Mode. The application is used in flight simming for FS2004, and called FSHotSFX. It does many things, but most importantly to me, it adds effects to the AI air traffic environment within FS2004.

    When I installed it within XP Mode I couldn't see the shortcut in the Win7 start menu.. so I installed a different program as a test and I now have the "XP Mode Application" folder in my Win7 start menu. It took me a while to create a working shortcut but I managed to do so and the application now starts up and runs within Win7.. except, (isn't there always an except?) it still won't communicate with FS2004.

    Many 3rd party addons for MS Flight Simulator make use of an application called FSUIPC to communicate with the Sim so custom joystick controls, instrument guages, real world weather, etc. can function, enrich and improve upon your flight sim experience.

    So basically, I start the FSHotSFX program from my Win7 start menu, then I start MS Flight Simulator 2004 and then I get an error message telling me that the FSUIPC.INI can't open FSHotSFX. At this point I think it's a shortcut issue, but it may be that it won't work at all.

    The shortcut for the FSHotSFX in the Win7 start menu looks like this:
    %SystemRoot%\system32\rundll32.exe %SystemRoot%\system32\VMCPropertyHandler.dll,LaunchVMSal "Windows XP Mode" "||d917cbe6" "FSHotSfx.exe"
    And the FSUIPC.ini wants to start the program from this path:
    RUNIF1=CLOSE,"C:\Program Files\FSHotSFX\FSHotSfx.exe MINIZ"
    Because FSUIPC is looking for a path that is actually in XP Mode and not Win7, I've been trying different shortcut combinations.. without any success I might add.

    Since I've more or less solved my initial question in the first post, my new plee for help is basically this: Can anyone help me create a shortcut path that will allow FSUIPC (installed in Win7) to communicate with FSHotSFX (installed in XP Mode) ???

    I really appreciate any help.. this one has me stumped pretty good!

    Regards,
    Chris
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  3. Posts : 5,642
    Windows 10 Pro (x64)
       #3

    If you don't get a shortcut, trying moving the shotcut in XP Mode to the all users start menu.
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  4. Posts : 3
    Windows 7 Professional x64 Retail
    Thread Starter
       #4

    The shortcut to start the FSHotSFX program within Win7 works great now, that's not the problem anymore.. what I need is a shortcut path that can be typed or copy/pasted into an .INI file, in this case the FSUIPC.ini file which allows the FSHotSFX program to communicate with FSUIPC.

    Here's what the FSUIPC.ini file looks like:
    [General]
    TCASid=Type+
    TCASRange=10
    History=WUYO896AU4OFBJZ0GC5PW
    WindSmoothing=No
    AutoTaxiWind=No
    WhiteMessages=No
    ThrottleSyncAll=No
    GraduatedVisibility=No
    LowerVisAltitude=6000
    UpperVisAltitude=25000
    UpperVisibility=6000
    GenerateCirrus=Yes
    WindShearSharp=No
    UpperWindGusts=No
    ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes
    PatchSimApAlt=Yes
    DisconnTrimForAP=No
    AutoClearWeather=Yes
    ExtendTopWind=Yes
    WindSmoothness=5
    SmoothPressure=No
    PressureSmoothness=5
    SmoothVisibility=No
    VisibilitySmoothness=2
    MaxSurfaceWind=0
    WindLimitLevel=200
    WindDiscardLevel=400
    WindAjustAltitude=No
    WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
    MinimumVisibility=0
    MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0
    MaximumVisibility=0
    MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0
    MaximumVisibilityRainy=0
    OneCloudLayer=No
    ThinClouds=No
    ThinThunderClouds=No
    CloudThinness=1000
    ThunderCloudThinness=10000
    CloudTurbulence=No
    CloudIcing=No
    WindTurbulence=No
    SuppressAllGusts=No
    ExternalOptionControl=Yes
    AutoTuneADF=No
    KeepFS98CloudCover=No
    ShowPMcontrols=No
    MagicBattery=No
    RudderSpikeRemoval=No
    ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
    AileronSpikeRemoval=No
    ReversedElevatorTrim=No
    TrapUserInterrupt=Yes
    NavFreq50KHz=No
    ClockSync=No
    SmoothIAS=Yes
    SetVisUpperAlt=No
    VisUpperAltLimit=6000
    MaxIce=3
    WindSmoothingDelay=0
    WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No
    VisSmoothingDelay=0
    VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No
    SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
    SuppressWindTurbulence=No
    SpoilerIncrement=512
    ShortAircraftNameOk=No
    TrafficScanPerFrame=10
    AxisCalibration=No
    CentredDialogue=No
    ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes
    OwnWeatherChanges=No
    FixWindows=No
    FixControlAccel=No
    WeatherReadInterval=4
    MoveBGLvariables=Yes
    MainMenu=&Modules
    SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...
    [JoystickCalibration]
    FlapsSetControl=0
    ReverserControl=66292
    MaxThrottleForReverser=0
    AileronTrimControl=0
    RudderTrimControl=0
    CowlFlaps1Control=0
    CowlFlaps2Control=0
    CowlFlaps3Control=0
    CowlFlaps4Control=0
    SlopeAileron=0
    SlopeElevator=0
    SlopeRudder=0
    [Programs]

    RUNIF1=CLOSE,"C:\Program Files\FSHotSFX\FSHotSfx.exe MINIZ" <------- I need a shortcut inserted here to tell FSUIPC where to find the FSHotSFX.exe.. this default shortcut doesn't take into account that your connecting from Win7 to XP Mode.

    I hope I'm making sence, I know it sounds a bit confussing, so I appreciate any help or suggestions anyone may have.

    Thanks,
    Chris
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  5. Posts : 6
    Window 7 64bit professional
       #5

    Going through this same thing myself, did you manage to get an answer ?
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  6. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #6

    You won't get a XP Mode application to directly interact with a native Win 7 application. They are actually technically running on two seperate OS'es, although Windows 7 makes it look like they aren't.

    If you're talking about FSUIPC in particular, then I have had no problems at all with Addons for FS2004, although I did have to install Net Framework 1.1 for some of them (Like EditVoicepack) which despite the information out there, DOES install on Windows 7 no problem.
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  7. Posts : 6
    Window 7 64bit professional
       #7

    That makes a lot of sense as to why they do not communicate.

    I have all my other add ons ( so far) working fine in Windows 7 it would be so nice if a genius out there could get FSHotSFX to run also. Only a small add on but the benefit of AIBlast really enhances the overall effect of FS9.

    cheers
    Steve
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  8. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #8

    Hi Steve,

    I've just had a thought on this.

    Is it possible to set the path for AIBlast? or for that matter FSUIPC. If so, then this may help:

    Close the VM (XP Mode) and go to the settings. (WIndows Virtual PC>Properties)
    Under the "Network Adapter" Tab, change it from "Shared NAT" to your Network Adapters name. (In my case this is RT5780, obviously yours will differ)
    This will cause the router to give your VM it's own IP address when you start it.
    Then follow this tutorial: File Sharing - Between XP and W7 (and vice versa) to set up sharing between them.
    Finally, set the path for AI Blast to \\<IP address>\<path>
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  9. Posts : 6
    Window 7 64bit professional
       #9

    Ok I have set up the sharing and each folder is recognised on the other system (must admit bit beyond me but got there eventually). Problem is now finding where to put the paths, do I need one in Win7 from FS9 or FSUIPC and/or Win XP with FSHotSFX.

    As I said this is somewhat technical for me but a good learning curve.

    Thanks for the help

    cheers
    Steve
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  10. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #10

    This is very much just a theory, there is a good chance that it won't work at all.

    What I am hoping, is that there is a way in which you can input FS9's path into FSHotSFX, for instance if it can't find FS9. (I don't know why, but on my PC, I always have to find FS9 manually, programs never read it properly from the registry)

    So it will look something like: <ip address of machine with FS9 on it>\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 2004.

    The easiest way to get the correct path, is to open the FS9 folder on the XP VM (which is being shared from Win 7) and copy/paste the path from the address bar.

    As I said though, this all hinges on FsHotSFX having the ability to input a manual path.

    Also, do you have to start FSHotSFX seperately? or is it supposed to automatically start with FS?
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