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Windows 7: Windows 2000 in VM Under Win 7??

21 Jan 2010   #121
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

The VM is currently set up as:
Primary IP: 192.168.0.250/255.255.255.0
AlternateIP: 192.168.25.240/255.255.255.0

Networking works, but only to 0.x and 25.x devices. 10.x, where the gateway is can't be reached (obviously with these settings).

So bridged works. Now need NAT to work through host.


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21 Jan 2010   #122
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Jeffs,

The "simpler" thing would be setting up a "Router VM" and use that "Router VM" to route your Win2K VM traffic to your LAN.
The "harder" thing would be for you to troubleshoot why the darn NAT mode doesn't work...

zzz2496
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21 Jan 2010   #123
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Looking over the SUN documentation under NAT, I see no reason why this should NOT be working...

Will "shared folders" work without the network working on the VM?
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21 Jan 2010   #124
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I honestly don't know, I always treat my VMs as a real computer, I don't want them to interact with my host "natively", which means if there's some malware/virus/whatever infected the VM, I need to make sure that the host is unharmed...

zzz2496
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21 Jan 2010   #125
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

I think it's reached a point where "this won't work" (NAT), which kind of sucks after all this work. So, either I'm going to have to stay in bridged mode and use a temporary 10.x address or give up and go with no network, which is useless for my needs.

As I said, I've been looking over the SUN documentation and NAT should work, and the guest 2K system should be 10.0.2.x, but it's just reporting as 0.0.0.0 in ipconfig. Apparently ipconfig is the ONLY way I can see in 2k to see your IP address. It hadn't reached the "status" screen yet - that had to wait until XP.

As for the VAX access, I've been told I can install the DENnet drivers in the XP Mode VM that came with W7 and that the terminal mode program will work fine in there, so there's my VAX workaround for when I need to get to it twice a year...
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21 Jan 2010   #126
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffs View Post
I think it's reached a point where "this won't work" (NAT), which kind of sucks after all this work. So, either I'm going to have to stay in bridged mode and use a temporary 10.x address or give up and go with no network, which is useless for my needs.

As I said, I've been looking over the SUN documentation and NAT should work, and the guest 2K system should be 10.0.2.x, but it's just reporting as 0.0.0.0 in ipconfig. Apparently ipconfig is the ONLY way I can see in 2k to see your IP address. It hadn't reached the "status" screen yet - that had to wait until XP.

As for the VAX access, I've been told I can install the DENnet drivers in the XP Mode VM that came with W7 and that the terminal mode program will work fine in there, so there's my VAX workaround for when I need to get to it twice a year...
NAT as in native mode in VirtualBox feature, in your case is "this won't work" assumption is regrettably true... But NAT can be implemented in many ways, as I said before, create another new VM that will host a "Router" installation will do just as well as Native NAT. I believe IPCop will make you smile... or Vyatta (if you prefer Cisco IOS like interface). These Linux "Routers" will do NAT for you... Though they'll rob some RAM off your host...

zzz2496

Edit: Pick one from this list, I personally use Vyatta, IPCop, and Mikrotik (Mikrotik is not in the list, I use it on my routerboard, and it works brilliantly)
Edit2: pfSense/Monowall are OK too (small memory footprint)
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21 Jan 2010   #127
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Something has come up since my last entry. I spoke with my IT friend, and we looked at the list of assigned IPs. I had remembered there were several temporary IP addresses that we used here in R&D, but I thought they were just that, temporary. It seems they were always set aside for R&D use for whatever we needed an occasional IP address for, and wouldn't be assigned to anything else. The available ones are from 10.170 to 179. So, I've taken one of them for use with the VM in bridged mode. This can safely be left in place on the VM and it won't be reused, since I am in R&D,, it's one of my addresses. If I create any other VMs, I can use it on those too as long as I don't run the VMs simultaneously.

So, THAT solves the network issue. The display is solved. I would like to try to get the mouse issue solved so that I don't have to work in this "capture" mode because it's a pain. I suspect though that when I try to install the VBOX add on for the mouse again, I'll get BSODs again, so I'll try that a little later after I've copied the vhdk file again.

So, now that networking is working, what's the best way to share data between these machines? Just do it the way I've always done it, as if the machine is "real"?
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21 Jan 2010   #128
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote:
So, now that networking is working, what's the best way to share data between these machines? Just do it the way I've always done it, as if the machine is "real"?
YES !!!!

Sorry for the long answer, I didn't realize that my firefox tab didn't refresh every 3 minutes...

zzz2496
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21 Jan 2010   #129
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Long answer?
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21 Jan 2010   #130
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I mean I responded way too slow (compared to yesterday)

Edit: pardon the weird english...
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