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Windows 7: Windows 2000 in VM Under Win 7??

13 Jan 2010   #11
huisinro

windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffs View Post
MyOldPCs isn't available for download - only on "request". I already emailed them for a copy. I did this DAYS ago and got NO response (even before I posted here).
just sent out latest download info to all requested users, if you still didn't get it, let me know.


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14 Jan 2010   #12
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

As an update...

1) I received a link for MyOldPCs and VMLite. I'm running the converter now on the W2k machine, but that's going to take all day apparently - mainly due to the fact the machine has a USB 1.1 port and the data transfer to the external HD is slow as molasses.

2) We already created a working VM image using a product called Acronis True Image Home (Beta) from an Acronis disk image (.tib) file. This was installed under the Microsoft Virtual Machine on Windows 7, and were able to boot the W2k VM. However, there is no virtual networking, so the data is 'stuck' inside the VM - I can't get it out to the host PC or visa versa. I'm hoping the VMLite works out better.
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14 Jan 2010   #13
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
you need to install the Virtual NIC adapter.

I don't know so much about Virtual PC but if you use vmware software install "vmware tools" - this will install from a "ISO image" too if you can't get a network connection.

Acronis will work for this too to create a vm from an existing .tib file.

Allow any firewall and AV software to share disks between host and VM and set vm networking to either NAT or Bridged.

If you use VBOX I think there's an equivalent program to vmware tools -- probably called something like "Additions" or whatever.

Cheers
jimbo
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15 Jan 2010   #14
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

OK, VMLite Workstation blue screened on me when installing it. So I give up with that.

The image I made with Acronis works under the Windows 7 Virtual PC, but I have no virtual networking, so like I said the data is stuck in that container and worthless. There has to be a way to make that work.
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15 Jan 2010   #15
huisinro

windows 7
 
 

really sorry about the crash issue, we have a few other customers reporting that:

http://www.vmlite.com/index.php/foru...-to-un-install

due to the network filter power state bug, being worked on.

if you want to just copy out the files, you can use "vmlitectl mount your.vhd/vmdk/vdi/hdd", then dismount the mapped drive with "vmlitectl umount z"

we will provide a plugin to VirtualBox very soon, so you can VirtualBox + VMLite XP Mode
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15 Jan 2010   #16
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Jeffs, are you using Windows Virtual PC for Windows 7(the free VPC for Win7)? If so, stop the virtual machine. Open the Windows Virtual PC, it should open the Explorer window pointing to a folder where it stores .vmcx files (your Virtual Machine configuration files). In there, right click your VM, click settings. In there, look for "Networking", change the "Number of network adapters" from "None" to "1", put it to NAT for now. Once you done that, start the Virtual Machine, it should detect a new network interface (btw, disable "Integration Features" for now).

I hope this is what you want...

zzz2496
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15 Jan 2010   #17
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Quote:
look for "Networking", change the "Number of network adapters" from "None" to "1", put it to NAT for now. Once you done that, start the Virtual Machine, it should detect a new network interface (btw, disable "Integration Features" for now).
@zzz...

The "Number of adapters" was already set to "1" (and grayed, can't be changed), and is already set to "Shared Networking (NAT)"

The Integration Features show as "Not Available" and if you click on the entry, the list on the right shows as light gray.

When you start the VM, no network connections are available. Now, by that I mean I cannot access the server based domain oriented network resources that I have to log on to to access. When I start the VM I am prompted to log in using my network password.

I do not appear to have any other network resources showing other than the drives that were mapped to the server resources when the VM image was made. Is it that I am not able to access these server resources, or my virtual networking is busted?

I remember when I run the XP Mode, you have a network drive that is the C: drive of the host OS. No such thing here. If I had just that, it would be fine. I don't care that I can't access the server resources on the domain, I just need to transfer data from the VM to the host OS drive C:

So, does this new information shed any light on what might be happening?
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15 Jan 2010   #18
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I see, can you change the network type from "Shared Networking" to something else other than none? In my computer, I have 2 network interfaces (I know to some degree, this is the limitation of Windows VPC), I assign the VM to use my unused network interface, by doing that, I'm actually bridging the whole thing.

See if you can do that...

If nothing above works, try VirtualBox and import the .vhd (make a backup first as usual) to VirtualBox. I have several VMs running on both VirtualBox and Microsoft Virtual PC. I have my old XP installation on both Virtualization solutions, both are up and running.

zzz2496
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15 Jan 2010   #19
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

I couldn't get networking to work no matter what I changed.

I'm downloading VirtualBox now, but I am still feeling the pain from my encounter with VMLite this morning and having to restore my entire drive from my last image to wipe it away. Too time consuming.

I probably won't try VirtualBox until Monday so I have a current image, just in case.

What do I have to do with the .vhd file? Just import it into VirtualBox? I assume this is done after installing VirtualBox?
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15 Jan 2010   #20
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Jeffs,

1. Make a copy of your .vhd file to somewhere safe.
2. In VirtualBox (assuming it's installed), go to File-> Virtual Media Manager, under "Hard Disks" tab, add your .vhd file in there.
3. Now create a new virtual machine, define what you need (memory, processor, network, etc), but DO NOT CREATE a new virtual harddisk, use an existing Virtual Hard Disk, select your .vhd from the drop down box. Finish the Virtual machine creation wizard.
4. Edit the virtual machine, add network, and any other devices you might want to use, triple check everything, then press OK.
5. Start your virtual machine...

That should do it.
Report back if you bump into any issues.

zzz2496
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