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Windows 7: Windows 2000 in VM Under Win 7??

19 Jan 2010   #71
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

OK. Some progress here. BIG progress.

I changed to static IP, and when I rebooted I was able to log into the network, and the resources were available. Yay!

Now, I can't continue to use a static IP on this VM. The IP I used was that of the retired machine. However, that IP is being recycled since we're short of network address (remember... other thread?)

So, it would seem that NAT is what I want, right? I want the VM to use the IP address of the host machine.

By the way, Firefox does not crash now, but it has no internet access (times out). Ping sees the gateway (192.168.10.41), but if you ping 208.67.222.222 (Open DNS servers) you get a timeout.


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19 Jan 2010   #72
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Crud...

Scratch what I said about no Inet access. I just noticed the gateway address was WRONG (10.4 instead of 10.41). Ping to 208.67.222.222 is OK now. I'm sure Firefox will work now too.
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19 Jan 2010   #73
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

No, NAT is not what you want... to be able to login to a DC, you need to actually "face" the DC on the network, you can't have a "veil" (the NAT/PAT) over you because if you do that, the DC will think that it's the Windows 7 Box that's logging in... Here's the issue, your Windows 2K IS an independent computer now, it is directly connected to the network on it's own... So you'd need an IP address to assign to. IF you need the Win2K machine to be connected to the Domain, then do so, and remove Windows 7 from the network.

By the way, if you want to access internet, make sure you have the "Default Gateway" box filled out...
Make a screenshot of ipconfig again, I'll look into it.

zzz2496

Edit: crap... I type way too slow...
Edit 2: You can't use NAT/PAT, but you can use route...
Edit 3: waiting anxiously... again...
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19 Jan 2010   #74
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Time to go home!

- Internet is working on the VM. It was the incorrectly typed gateway address just mentioned.

- Understand the issue of being able to log in to the domain. Will discuss with IT guy in morning.

- I have a "spare" IP address in the 10.x spectrum that I can assign to the VM for the times it may get used. This spare IP may be used by other things, so it isn't always available. It's a temporary address. Nobody can use it for long.

- Going back to the "I don't really need to log into the domain", if I can get network access (able to go through the gateway) without the domain access, that will still work for me. If I can get the shared folder to work so I can move data from the VM to the host C: drive. I have to find out if I can access the VAX without being on the domain.

- Why don't we declare this a successful end to the day, and pick this up tomorrow morning? This morning it was blue screens, and tonight it's working. almost working.

I'll check the forum when I get home. Shutting down now.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions today. Both of you.
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19 Jan 2010   #75
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Hmm... you can access internet from VM, obviously you now can access Win7 SMB share, right? This is solved right?

zzz2496
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19 Jan 2010   #76
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

No, not 100% solved. Maybe 90%. Much better than this morning, which way 0%!

Still a few things to follow up on tomorrow. No need to look for messages every 2 minutes though! Just catch them as you see them. I'll be back tomorrow morning. I want to try the NAT to see what happens, and I still have the video driver issue in the VM to solve. I can't get above 800x600 16 color because no driver is installed. Where did the driver that was installed on the physical machine go? isn't that still used in the VM? If not, where do I get the driver?
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19 Jan 2010   #77
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

On the Virtual Machine window (the one you see your virtual monitor), click "Devices"=>"Install Guest Additions". That's where all the drivers are.
As for NAT... I'm 95% sure that masquerading won't work when you try to connect to the DC, routing the request is another matter...

zzz2496
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20 Jan 2010   #78
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Good evening, Jeffs (or Good morning in your timezone)
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20 Jan 2010   #79
Jeffs

Win 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Good morning. Here where I stand.

I tried switching back to NAT, but I can no longer get network connectivity (can't ping anything). I set the network adapter back to PCnet FAST III (NAT). I set the TCP setting of the network adapter in the VM back to "automatic". The VM is clearly having trouble too as it doesn't always start up, it locks during the desktop startup when the various icons appear in the notification area. Hovering the mouse cursor over the taskbar gives the "busy" icon, in the desktop area, just an arrow. Nothing can be selected. START doesn't work. Did I need to change anything under the "Advanced" setting when going back to NAT?

After talking to my IT coworker, I do not need to access the domain, so logging into that is not an issue. I do not need to be logged in to access the VAX. All I need is network connectivity. So if we can just get the network going to the point where I can ping things, I should be OK.

I can not keep the static IP address that we had working in bridged mode. That address is being recycled, and soon.

For the video, I tried "Devices=>Install Guest Additions..." but no subsequent window appears. Nothing else happens.
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20 Jan 2010   #80
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

To keep things simple, do you have a backup of your virtual harddisk? If so, revert to backup, change back Networking to the way before you switch to NAT. I need to test things up a bit, I'll post back ASAP.

zzz2496
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