Win7 Half Blind - Can't see VM as Resource

Geekster2 · 28 Feb 2010

Windows 7 Ultimate is not showing VM's as a location from which to add User's to the Windows 7 Security list.
How can you grant file rights to user accounts on the XP-Mode Virtual Machine if you can't list the XP-Mode VM?

I've enabled FileSharing at the root of C: on the XP-Mode VM.
Windows 7 Obviously sees the XP-Mode VM. (See first attached.)

But when I try to access the VM's share, Windows 7 suddenly clams up and can't see anything on the VM!!!??? (see second and third attached).

It's Like Windows 7 is half-blind!

You can plainly see that XP-Mode is running. Why can't I connect to the VM's share?
I also can't grant rights to Windows 7 drives to any users on the XP-Mode VM... Why?
(See last attachment.)

Dinesh · 28 Feb 2010

Hi there, which windows 7 version are you using? I have never heard of "Ultra" version. Did you mean Ultimate?

Or could you please type winver in run command and post a screenshot?

Like this:

Win7 Half Blind - Can't see VM as Resource-winver.png

Geekster2 · 28 Feb 2010

sorry. I meant Ultimate. I guess I was typing too fast.

Wow, your credentials are impressive: Gold Member, Seven Guru?

Tell me, there MUST be a way to do what I'm trying to do eh?

I'm only trying to do this because Outlook loses connection to the Windows 7 Ultimate C: drive so often that it's driving me nuts! It only seems to do this with Outlook. When using Windows Explorer (I still like to call it "File Explorer") I have no issues. So I'm out to solve that issue by trying to grant rights to the XP-Mode user to the C: drive on Win7. Is it doable?
Thanks,
Vic

Kari · 28 Feb 2010

Please Geekster don't understand me wrong, but that's not really true. You have told about your Win7 Ultra in at least a couple of threads and several posts, and you tell in your system specs your OS is Win7 Ultra. I do not believe it is this one word, Ultimate, you misspell every time when you clearly can type English quite well, better than me.

I think I could help you, but before I'll do that I need to be sure your Windows is valid and legal. I don't want to have anything to do with issues related to illegal Windows versions, nor want I help members using illegal versions of Windows or any other OS / application. Only references I can find in Internet are pointing in the direction that Ultra is an illegal Windows 7 version, available in torrent and P2P networks.

Please provide a screenshot showing which version of Windows you are using, and that it is activated. I believe we can then help you to connect your XPM and host.

I know I'm going to get some negative feedback because of this post, I can just hope you could understand my point of view.

Kari

Geekster2 · 28 Feb 2010

Kari: Well, you certainly won't get any negative feedback from me. I completely understand. What a coincidence I'd use a word that's associated with a pirated version. Here's my winver output. see attached.

If there is anything else you need to feel comfortable of my activated status, please advise. I hope YOU feel comfortable that I'm not publishing my product key here on the forum.

Kari · 01 Mar 2010

Thanks, Geekster.

OK, let's look your issue. Could you confirm these two details:

1) In XP Mode settings, you have chosen your host's NIC to be used in XP Mode? In my case, my host machine has a Realtec NIC so I choose that to be used with also in XP Mode:

Win7 Half Blind - Can't see VM as Resource-xpm_nic.png

2) Your router can see the XP Mode in DHCP list. In my Belkin router it looks like this:

Win7 Half Blind - Can't see VM as Resource-dhcp_list.png

Check these first, then we know what to do next.

Kari

Geekster2 · 01 Mar 2010

Kari: Thanks for the info. I'm at work right now. Just starting my day. I think we're just a "few" timezones apart.

I left everything default when I set up the VM stuff. But I'll take a look at it when i get home (in about 9 hours from now).

One thing I can say is the NIC is functioning. I know this because in XP-Mode, the web browser works fine.

I did notice I can't ping the VM from Windows 7. Windows 7 has an ip of 192.168.1.5 while the VM assigned itself 192.168.131.65 as you can see from the IPCONFIG attachment at the top of this thread.

I'm assuming some kind of DHCP server is built into the XP-Mode vm. correct?
Do you think it would hose the VM if I manually set the IP to one on my network?

I was thinking of trying that.

Kari · 01 Mar 2010

I think your issue could be easily solved when you change the XP Mode NIC to that of your host. Let's see.

Kari

Geekster2 · 01 Mar 2010

Hi Kari. I'm home from work now, and as you suspected, the XP-Mode's VM settings weren't using the "real" NIC. It was set to "Shared Networking", which must be why the IP address was so strange. You've got to wonder why Microsoft made that setting the default.

I set it to the real NIC, which is "nVidia nForce 10/100/1000 Ethernet"

Immediately the VM picked up the ip of 192.168.1.101, which the DHCP server in my router supplied.

Ok, so now from the VM, I could ping my Windows 7 session.
Ping 192.168.1.5 got a return.

So I minimize the VM and open a cmd shell in the Windows 7 session and ping the VM at "ping 192.168.1.101" and it fails to return.

Ok, so I check for a firewall inside the VM, and turn it OFF.

Now I can ping both ways.

Sounds hopeful, right? Well I still can't access the VM's shares when I click on the VM's machine name in File Explorer's Network section, or see the machine name in Security settings "Location" button. Everything here is just like the problems described in my pictures.

However, since we can ping both ways, I'd say Windows is only 1/4 blind now.
So there's progress at least.
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