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Windows 7: I thought I understood Windows licensing, but this has me a bit stuck

14 Apr 2011   #1
Proximon

Windows 7 Premium 64-bit
 
 
I thought I understood Windows licensing, but this has me a bit stuck

Hi all, here's the deal.

I'm upgrading hardware, including the MB. I'm also wanting to install Win 7 Professional Upgrade on the new hardware.

On the current system we have:
XP Pro (OEM but it's transferable of course)
Win 7 64-bit Premium OEM

There is also an OEM version of Vista 64-bit tied to this machine, but not installed.

Since the MB, CPU, and RAM are all being replaced, it only makes sense to leave the Win7 OEM tied to the old hardware so it can continue to live on, so I'm not upgrading that version.

That leaves me with two possibilities. The Vista OEM isn't doing anything, and the XP pro is re-usable still...

So can I do a clean install of the upgrade on the new hardware, and then consider the Vista 64-bit OEM "burned"?
Or do I need to:
1. Re-install Vista on the old hardware.
2. Upgrade with Win 7 Pro 64-bit Upgrade.
3. Re-install on the new hardware.

Licensing clearly states that
-OEM version can be upgraded to full with upgrade media.
-Upgrade versions are full versions and can be transferred to new motherboards.

Yes, the whole MS licensing thing is complicated. I don't really blame them for that though. I just can't quite see how to do this right.
I suspect I would get different answers from different MS lawyers.


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14 Apr 2011   #2
Proximon

Windows 7 Premium 64-bit
 
 

Having re-read that I think I can put it more simply:

I have TWO OEM OSes tied to one machine.
I want to use the older one to upgrade to a full Win 7 Professional.
Upgraded OSes are fully transferable to new hardware, and I want to do that.
Can I skip all that and just consider the OEM version (no longer used) from one machine as replaced by the upgrade version on the other?
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14 Apr 2011   #3
gregrocker

 

OEM's are tied to the motherboard, so if you change the motherboard they no longer will activate (unless you are granted an exception during MS Phone activation) nor do they qualify for using Upgrade version on the newer mobo.

If you have any other retail XP or Vista, you qualify to use the Upgrade version on the new mobo, or if MS grants an exception to activate the old OEM license on the new mobo, it would then logically qualify for using Upgrade version.

Any other questions?
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14 Apr 2011   #4
Proximon

Windows 7 Premium 64-bit
 
 

But according to everything I have read, an upgrade version of Win7 is transferable to a new motherboard. It doesn't say "except when based on an OEM version" anywhere.

I can use an XP license, that's not a big problem. Lot's of licenses around here. It's just that this particular license isn't being used, and is not likely to be used again.

From the Win 7 EULA
License Terms
Quote:
15. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
(my bold )


Seems to me that I am at least allowed to re-install vista on the hardware and then upgrade it, then wipe the drive and install it again on the new hardware.
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15 Apr 2011   #5
gregrocker

 

Upgrade is indeed able to migrate as often as you wish for life.

However there must be a qualifying XP/Vista for each machine being Upgraded and if that were the OEM tied to a motherboard you're replacing, it seems it would not qualify any longer unless granted the exception by MS to keep Win7 OEM on a changed mobo - which we hear they do sometimes for retail OEM. (Factory OEM is handled by manufacturer replacing with same mobo).

But since you have plenty of retail full copies of XP/Vista then you have no worries, as under the EULA they qualify you on any machine as long as you don't use them again while they are serving as qualifying OS for Upgrade version.
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15 Apr 2011   #6
Bill2

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
 
 

Err...if I can just butt in. Proximon can you please explain in simple terms:

1) are you talking about a single computer or multiple computers?

2) do you have a dual boot setup with xp and win7 are did you upgrade/clean install from xp to win7?

3) Do you mean the vista was originally installed on this computer but is no longer installed?
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15 Apr 2011   #7
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

You can't do what you want with the Upgrade since both OEM's are tied to the current machine.
I would suggest just purchasing an OEM version of Win 7 Pro for $129 for the new hardware.
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - Operating Systems
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15 Apr 2011   #8
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Purchasing an OEM version of Win 7 Pro will be tied to your new motherboard.
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15 Apr 2011   #9
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Err, If I can butt in.

A upgrade version is GOOD on any hardware IF you have a qualifying previous version, and that includes OEM version, and that qualifying previous version is NOT being used on any other computer.
It doesn't matter if that previous version was installed on the hardware you are installing the upgrade on.
That is why you can move it from hardware to hardware.

Forget about new motherboards and the like.

If you had, NOT HAVE, a computer with a OEM version of almost any fairly current MS OS, I doubt Win 3.11 is accepted, and you take that PC out of service, it is no longer being used for anything, and BUILD a new rig you can legally use a upgrade version of 7 to install on that new RIG.

You are upgrading the OS and along with that the hardware.
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15 Apr 2011   #10
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Shootist View Post
Err, If I can butt in.

A upgrade version is GOOD on any hardware IF you have a qualifying previous version, and that includes OEM version, and that qualifying previous version is NOT being used on any other computer.
It doesn't matter if that previous version was installed on the hardware you are installing the upgrade on.
That is why you can move it from hardware to hardware.

Forget about new motherboards and the like.

If you had, NOT HAVE, a computer with a OEM version of almost any fairly current MS OS, I doubt Win 3.11 is accepted, and you take that PC out of service, it is no longer being used for anything, and BUILD a new rig you can legally use a upgrade version of 7 to install on that new RIG.

You are upgrading the OS and along with that the hardware.
you are totally wrong.
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