Product key on the side of computer case

windude99 said:

NoelDP said:

That's ONLY possible if there's a valid SLIC table on the machine - or you use a Loader.

I don't use loaders and I don't have the slic table. I am not a software pirate, never have been and never will be.

I'd be interested to see the MGADiag report from one of these machines with a 'transferred' license. - in theory (and in practice) a situation such as you say you have is simply not possible, unless you reinstall every so often after rearming to extend the grace period
.Activation with the OEM_SLP Key depends on three things
1) a proper SLIC table in the BIOS
2) the matching Key
3) matching certificates from the OS - which are properly only present in the OEM Recovery disks, and not the Retail or OEM System Builder disks

If any of those is faulty in any way, the system should declare itself non-genuine, and demand the input of a new Key - which would have to be the COA Key.

The only way what you describe could be possible is if for instance all your machines are Dell, and all are Vista of one edition or another

NoelDP said:

windude99 said:

NoelDP said:

That's ONLY possible if there's a valid SLIC table on the machine - or you use a Loader.

I don't use loaders and I don't have the slic table. I am not a software pirate, never have been and never will be.

I'd be interested to see the MGADiag report from one of these machines with a 'transferred' license. - in theory (and in practice) a situation such as you say you have is simply not possible, unless you reinstall every so often after rearming to extend the grace period
.Activation with the OEM_SLP Key depends on three things
1) a proper SLIC table in the BIOS
2) the matching Key
3) matching certificates from the OS - which are properly only present in the OEM Recovery disks, and not the Retail or OEM System Builder disks

If any of those is faulty in any way, the system should declare itself non-genuine, and demand the input of a new Key - which would have to be the COA Key.

The only way what you describe could be possible is if for instance all your machines are Dell, and all are Vista of one edition or another

Ok. You are misunderstanding the situation. Sorry. I am talking baout the key on the side of the case, not the slp key, Sorry.

WinDude,

Go to this link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

download and run mgadiag.

I'm sure that Noel can fill you in still more.

I'm also very interested in seeing what mgadiag has to say.

windude99 said:

Ok. You are misunderstanding the situation. Sorry. I am talking baout the key on the side of the case, not the slp key, Sorry.

No - you have been mis-stating your situation.

EVERY PC from major manufacturers come with two Keys - the OEM_SLP Key with which it is originally installed, and which self-activates using the SLIC table and internal certificates; and the COA_SLP Key which requires Internet or Telephone activation.
Volume Licenses are a totally different beast, with highly specific license terms.
Retail Licenses are the ones which Home Bulders or enthusiast should be using
is activated it will require telephone activation,
Under no circumstances can an OEM License be transferred to a new machine. If it has been previously activated on another machine it will fail Internet activation on the 'new' machine. Telephone activation via an operator WILL be required - and explanations given and accepted. Answering the operator with incorrect or evasive responses will result in the activation being refused, and possibly the Key being blocked.

In general, the first time a COA_SLP Key is activated, it must be by telephone (to ensure that it is activated on the correct machine) - after that, activation by internet would be sufficient.

OEM_NSLP (System Builder) Keys normally activate by Internet - and cannot be moved to new machines.

In the case of both COA_SLP and COA_NSLP the only motherboard changes normally allowed by MS are warranty replacements.

why do that?
Just make a backup copy of your product key and you are good to go.

No -and so what even if you do? Most activation numbers are toll-free from landlines.

The only times you need to use telephone activation are
1) The first time you activate the COA_SLP Key on any machine
2) If hardware has changed significantly from the last activation
3) if you have activated a significant number of times in a relatively short period.

Otherwise, internet activation usually works, unless there are oter problems.