Many companies unrelated to MS, but who hold Volume Licenses, offer their employees such licenses under the HUP program - these licenses are technically only valid while the recipient is still an employee and are, I believe, Upgrade licenses only.
Yeah I know Noel I just think as person who can afford to have these things feel it is so unfair to those who cannot and that is why I try my best to help them out - that isn't much because I have only been doing computing in any depth for the last three years.
As a Registered Nurse of 40+ years have seen a lot of less fortunate people than myself and it grates when I see those sorts of comments made by some smart um - person - given some of the situations of my friends and work colleagues who do not have access to have more or less what I take more or less granted is something that I try my best to help them out with at the minimal cost that I can.
Anyway I suppose whatever I think it not going to matter a jot to those fat cats who are only interested in their self and corporate interests.
I will say though that this forum is probably the most obliging and welcoming site I have ever been on - a great group of people who are always ready to come to the aid of those in need of help and believe me I have had probably more than my fair share of help over the time I have been in here - plus I have many friends that are very special to me.
Sorry nothing personal to you or anyone else in this forum and for the rant but someone has got to stand up and be counted for those who feel they cannot or do not know how stand up for themselves.
I work with some very hard working people who hardly ever complain about jobs that quite frankly I would find hard to do, are underpaid, and be quite unrewarding - something I think is sadly lacking in our so called humanity these days.
Still haven't seen an MGADiag report :)
(we all need to vent sometimes - I've been known to do it in far less appropriate places than these forums <g>)
Hiyya Noel Sorry mate I got the erm - take a wild guess and scrubbed the thing and have tried one last time to install after wiping the drive with the Partition Wizard with 0'sand the install has gone in with no messages as yet but if it comes back to haunt me I do one and send through.
I did it because I only did a diskpart and clean before on the drive that I had an XP on and perhaps the reg items ran over and hence the mess that the reg was in - not that I would have know half of what they were to be honest.
A Win7 install over XP is by definition a 'clean' install - so there shouldn't have been any holdovers from anything. Perhaps some disk problem led to a corrupted install.
<shrug>
That's the wonder of Windows
Hum I think we might have got cross threaded (no pun) here Noel LOL!!
The machine the Vista was on and wrecked by the owners daughter and son I was going to reinstall but HDD itself was wrecked by what the son and daughter had done on it . The Vista disk would not reinstall on it to make as new so was at a loss as what to do.
So I thought well as I had a spare 500GB Spinpoint ( I am not a lover of Samsung HDD's) and a 32bit 7 OEM OS that I has stuck on a Frankenstein Compaq and that I would put these in the Vista machine instead, which it did without a hitch. She is a work colleague and also cleans my house for me as I can't because of working full time and a shoulder injury that gives me jip at times so she has promised me free clean - fair trade I think!
I then put an 80GB SATA HDD into an IBM M51 ThinkCentre (8144)(not a bad machine with a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4 dual core and 4GB RAM - ex education dept job) that I also had spare and cleaned the HDD and then installed the Vista that had come off the mothers Asus machine that I had just fixed up for her.
I did this because as you know young people as they do like that facebook and iTunes rubbish plus not to mention Limewire and P2P downloading.
Now the daughter who is starting studies can have her own machine and if she wrecks this one well thats her fault. Anyway I have fixed Mums machine so she can't get into that rubbish again again enough said.
I then had the problem with that message - now have it reinstalled and so far so good touch wood.
The Compaq I put in a new 500GB HDD and a new 32bit 7OEM in for the Mum's sister who has had a really tough life and is near rock bottom and of course had no hope of having a computer and was spending her days cooped up with soapies on the TV. I treated her to a new monitor too plus wireless KB and mouse and it has turned her somewhat wretched life round
This Compaq I replaced with a machine that had much better specs that a farmer was going to throw out with a four year old XP machine as they were upgrading and they asked me if I wanted then for bits - less the HDDs of course.
So I kept the farm machine - very nice Q7400 4GB RAM DDR2 stuck in a new 500GB Seagate and a 64bit OEM 7, and it's my tester now (Karma
So as long as this Vista holds firm on the IBM alls well and good but if they come at me again I will send it back gift wrapped - seriously for some fat cat to use.
They might think I am some sort of a crook but I can assure you I am not and for $100 for an OEM - quite frankly not worth the aggravation but why waste a perfectly good OS - doesn't make sense - you wouldn't throw away perfectly good clothes because you bought them and they were yours alone would you?? - no difference in my mind.
Sorry - I'm working about 15 threads at the moment, around 50% are Vista, and the rest Win7 :)
Sometimes I get befuddled.
At the end of the day, the License for any OEM installation stays with the COA sticker (which is made non-removable for that reason).
The hard drive is irrelevant - it's only the motherboard that Windows bitches about - and you can change drives on a daily basis if you *really* want, without a problem.
No problems Noel like you I am working several threads, emails, fixing, and my own machines at the same time so I know how it is for time.
I know you are absolutely right and I applaud your knowledge on the subject it has certainly made a lot of things abundantly clear in my simple mind. But still that doesn't make M$ terribly understanding or empathetic people.
I don't begrudge anyone a living but there are livings and livings. I understand their concerns with piracy and I would if the ownership were mine too, but surely it would make sense if that particular licence came up more than say twice then something may be going on.
So all I can say is hope to heaven your mobo doesn't break on you eh? I had a fiend just recently have that happen with a new one and had to get a different brand because of the shenanigans and poor service there was forthcoming so I suppose I shall have to ask what became of the OS on that occasion.
Still like I said I shall put an OEM of 7 on for her if push comes to shove - just to push home a point - I just don't like this world becoming one of haves and have nots.
Oh and thanks for your time and patience my friend it hasn't gone unappreciated.
John
The Windows license that big OEM's pay for probably costs less than $20-25 per unit - that's one reason why MS doesn't like people trying to move it, and OEM's won't support a new motherboard either, unless it's one they've approved (which basically means that you have to buy it from them).
It's threads like this that help me organise things a little in what passes for a brain my skull :) - so thanks are due to you also .
No I think there is more than what passes for a brain there Noel - but I know lots of individuals that wouldn't even be having this conversation with me I do appreciate still the reasoning.
Some may have what the pro-port to be a brain but in actual fact is a bag of tripe and onionsthough I am very confident none of those reside in SF!!
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