The Transfer of OEM Licenses from a dead PC to Another PC

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  1. Posts : 21,482
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       #61

    The OP is in the US - not Europe - and therefore can have no recourse to the EU rules, even if they have been enacted in the individual nations (which as far as I am ware is only the case in one country).

    Cite a US court/federal/state law, and we may start coming together in this.
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  2. Posts : 15,804
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       #62

    I have no idea what the situation is in the US. Do you?

    If you don't then why are you trying to worry the OP ?

    He has contacted MS who told him it is fine.

    End of story.
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  3. Posts : 15,804
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       #63

    even if they have been enacted in the individual nations
    Where did you get that idea from? It from the court of Justice of the European Union. It is EU copyright law.

    The Court of Justice interprets EU law to make sure it is applied in the same way in all EU countries.

    I understand there are about 750 million of us in the Europe. EDIT : Not all are in the EU (yet). Other places would like to join, it seems, so you never know what it will be in few years.

    Now you know why the software giants want to get everybody into subscribing.

    They have tried to wrest ownership away by a variety of methods. including what is desrcribed by one Swiss company as "intimidation", as well as several long and expensive attempts in the courts to have software treated as "different" from everything else.
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  4. Posts : 21,482
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       #64

    I give up - there's no point in continuing this.
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  5. Posts : 17,545
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       #65

    SIW2 said:
    I understand there are about 750 million of us in the EU.
    Trivial information but that's about 50% too much, correct number is circa 507 million.

    The Court of Justice of the European Union decision means that I am allowed to sell the media itself, regardless of in which form I have acquired it (CD, DVD, Flash Drive, ISO download etc.). That, of course, is only logical.

    The license to use a program or OS installed from that media is then a totally different thing. In my opinion consumers and consumer organizations in EU are cutting the very branch they are sitting on; if the law really was changed so that regardless which license type you have bought, you could freely resell or reuse your OS, that would mark the end of cheaper OEM versions.

    As a consumer I accept the fact that if I want to invest in full retail version of Windows, I can reuse and / or resell it, no questions asked, but if I want to save some money I can choose to buy a cheaper OEM version which (as I very well know and what is clearly written / told to me when I buy it) I am allowed to reinstall only to the same hardware.

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  6. Posts : 15,804
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       #66

    There is no change. It has always been that way.

    When you buy an item, you get ownership of that item. You can therefore move/sell give away that item.

    But only one because you only bought one. You can't sell multiple copies.

    It is the same with everything - books, cars, etc. It is basic principle called the exhaustion principle.

    That is what buying means.That is why it is different from renting. If they were the same, we wouldn't need two words.

    If that were changed , there would be chaos.

    It does not matter if it is called oem, retail or volume. You don't get the extra support with an oem copy, which is fair enough, hence the price difference.
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  7. Posts : 15,804
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       #67

    Re the number of people in the Eu,I just grabbed it from here, which is actually Europe as opposed to just the Eu.


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  8. Posts : 25,847
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       #68

    Because of all the legal issues in the E.U. between OEM and Retail I believe one of them will go.
    Microsoft being a company trying to make money the cheaper one will go.
    Microsoft will make one Windows operating system and wright a new agreement and one price. The price will be a lot higher to all of us all over the world.
    Microsoft has got to be tired of the court games in the E.U. so the rest of the world will have to also pay the price.

    I buy OEM and I agreed to the terms knowing the limitations. I saved money.
    I don't believe I will be able to save money in the future.
    I don't understand agreeing to terms and living by them is such a problem.

    If one wants the advantages of a Retail Windows then buy a Retail version and leave the rest of us around the world alone that are happy with OEM and the cheaper cost.
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  9. Posts : 17,545
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       #69

    Layback Bear said:
    I buy OEM and I agreed to the terms knowing the limitations. I saved money.
    I don't believe I will be able to save money in the future.
    I don't understand agreeing to terms and living by them is such a problem.
    My point exactly.
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  10. Posts : 15,804
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       #70

    LOL. Price is a marketing tool.

    It is used to position products and maximise sales.

    The ownership question is not new. It has always been that way. However, now it has been written down, more people will realise they have those rights. The EU court is absolutely correct.

    The software giants will continue to try and get people into renting. That way they are in complete control.

    The pricing of MS products will be the result of their attempts to get people into renting, and as a response to what Google and others are doing.

    E.G. MS are about to give away the os to oems, purely to compete with Android.
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