How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8

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  1. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #491

    lehnerus2000 said:
    Callender said:
    RE: KB971033. I am informed that it should be installed. Checks your windows is legit every 90 days I think.
    You don't need it.

    However, if you try to download updates directly from MS you may be asked to install & run "GenuineCheck.exe".

    Callender said:
    Currently I have force installed KB3075851 after removing all other WU Client versions and running advanced disk cleanup. Memory usage has remained stable even when running WU checks.
    KB3075851 fixed my excessive RAM and CPU usage problems.
    My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.
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  2. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #492

    UsernameIssues said:
    I have a VM patched with SP1 and not much else. That same frozen VM has been brought all the way up to completely patched many times in the past few years. The last few attempts to fully update it have been met with high RAM and high CPU usage. I have not seen that in the past and I don't know exactly when it started.

    The high usage does not cause me any problems (other than heating up the room). I don't have this high resource usage on any real computers... but I do (mildly) wonder what the cause might be.

    To be clear, I'm not talking about RAM starting out at 1.7GB (which this laptop is using right now) and climbing to 2GB or even 3GB during a WU scan/install. I'm talking about WU using all available RAM and pushing well into the swap file - no matter how much RAM is assigned/installed. That is what I see in the VM and that is what I've seen in a few threads.
    Maybe check this post:

    100% CPU Usage svchost.exe windows update eror 0x80070005 Please Read

    If you can run RAMmap in your VM does it show high memory usage by datastore.edb ?
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  3. Posts : 14
    64 bit windows 7
       #493

    Brds7t7 said:
    My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.
    Whats the GP workaround?
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  4. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #494

    Hedied4me said:
    Brds7t7 said:
    My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.
    Whats the GP workaround?
    Take a look at my earlier post:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...ml#post3141430
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  5. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #495

    I gave RAMMap a try. Sadly, I could not get the RAM to go over 2.2GB out of 4GB. (I changed the RAM assigned - as I have done in the past - to let the scan go faster.) I did not wait for the installation of the updates. The database file did have about the same amount of RAM assigned to it that your screenshot showed - but the vast majority of it was not locked.

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-scan.png

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-standby.png
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  6. Posts : 13,576
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #496

    Once again, my current list and my WUA version is 7.6.7601.18979


    Updates not to Install

    KB2876229 SKYPE, If you want Skype then install it.
    KB2923545 RDP
    KB2970228
    KB3035583
    KB2990214
    KB3021917
    KB3068708 Telemetry
    KB2592687
    KB2660075
    KB2506928
    KB2952664 x2
    KB3050265
    KB2726535
    KB2994023
    KB3022345 Replaced by KB3068708 Telemetry

    KB3022345 Caused false sfc result
    KB2545698 (IE9)
    KB3065987
    KB3077715
    KB3078667
    KB3080149 Telemetry
    KB3075249 Telemetry
    KB2999226
    KB3083710
    KB3097966
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  7. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #497

    UsernameIssues said:
    I gave RAMMap a try. Sadly, I could not get the RAM to go over 2.2GB out of 4GB. (I changed the RAM assigned - as I have done in the past - to let the scan go faster.) I did not wait for the installation of the updates. The database file did have about the same amount of RAM assigned to it that your screenshot showed - but the vast majority of it was not locked.
    Well your screenshot shows the same problem with datastore.edb that I have seen on my own machine. No way should it show that many open handles.

    Normal behaviour is like this:

    With a windows update check in progress have a look at usage shown in the "Active" tab.

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-rammap-wu-check-running.jpg

    Also this is normal for the number of handles. I used Process Explorer but as you found out RAMmap can display some details on handles too.

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-process-explorer-search.jpg

    Note: Memory usage by datastore.edb during WU checks seems to have crept up since I last checked. Here's how it appeared after the fix:

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-datastore-edb-2.jpg

    EDIT: Just for comparison. Screenshot of "Active" tab before the problem was fixed:

    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-datastore-edb-before.jpg
    Last edited by Callender; 18 Oct 2015 at 09:59. Reason: add image
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  8. Posts : 4,047
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #498

    AddRAM said:
    Updates not to Install
    ...
    KB3097966
    What is the problem with that update?
    It seems to be related to security certificates.
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  9. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #499

    Could be ?
    Little too close to Halloween for a spoofing update
    Known issues in this security update

    • Microsoft is aware of legitimate kernel drivers for D-Link products (including network adapters) that were signed by the affected D-Link certificates. These drivers include the Windows 7 drivers on the installation CD for the DUB-E100 USB network adapter. After you install this security update, these kernel drivers will no longer load, and the hardware will stop functioning. Updated drivers that aren't affected by this issue are available on Windows Update.
    The third-party products that this article discusses are manufactured by companies that are independent of Microsoft. Microsoft makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, about the performance or reliability of these products.
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  10. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #500

    Callender,
    I do see a high number of handles; about 790M. Deleting the softwaredistribution folder and starting with a fresh datastore database does cause fewer active handles (~186M). The overall RAM usage is the same; but, since most of that RAM was not locked by active handles, it is of little concern.

    Rather than find the last good WU client, deleting the softwaredistribution folder seems easiest for fresh builds. For existing builds, such a deletion would unhide hidden updates. Perhaps the a more surgical approach might work.
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