How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8

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  1. Posts : 5
    windows 7 x64
       #811

    Thanks for the welcome. I have been caught by that download once before, and uninstalled it as I did then. There has been a change in its effect, presumably since the New Year. I found that I was unable to get anywhere this time - System Restore had no effect, in spite of trying three different save-points. The only 'quick' way of getting going again was to reinstall KB3035583, whereupon everything worked (though with less speed).

    I did have the number down on an 'avoid list' and had stopped automatic updating. But, alas, it was the end of the day, and I didn't check! Why on earth Microsoft is so determined to put our backs up, we may never know. It certainly IS war on Windows 7 - we must all conform to their empire (shades of Chairman Mao). Suppose we all finish up on their semi-tiled system and then they move to tablets only? It will be Linux for me.
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  2. Posts : 155
    Windows 7 - 64 bit
       #812

    bigmck said:
    Microsoft can not make any money giving Win 10 away for free. There will be something for them to make money on. Maybe Ads on every page or it might become a subscription service like MS Office 360. Something is up their sleeve and it is more than their arm.
    But they can. MS is adopting the Google model of selling information collected by using their product. Who is MS selling this data to ?

    For one:

    https://www.markmonitor.com/

    No doubt those organizations whose mission statement involves DMCA such as RIAA and their movie equivalent whose name escapes me at present, will find the tracked information worthy of purchase. They might not use that info to go after users downloading music or movies illegally but where they are downloading them from is a prized bit of information.

    Reports Archive - RIAA

    Software manufacturers would also pay for information that for example, records how software is used. For example, many software vendors (AutoDesk, Adobe, Intuit, etc.) are moving to "renting" software. Knowing how often and for how long the programs are used would allow a better assessment of you to structure those charges.

    The reason, I think, that MS is mum on what lies in the future with regard to how much Windows will cost is they don't know how big the market will be for the information they will collect. And that could be one of the reasons they are attempting to force feed this upgrade on us .... the value of the information is proportional to the sample size.

    MS has never been about innovation. They bought DOS and made a big deal to provide it to IBM; that has been the model ever since. Obtain technology by acquisition or imitation. And with that kind of background, watching Google make billions without selling a real product has gotta have made them want to imitate that financial model.
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  3. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #813

    Yes indeed it is best to never install any of the 10 assortment of updates they will not remove well
    I'm sure M$ planed it that way
    Nice list to avoid at all costs,
    Including the new Important one kb3112343
    How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8
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  4. Posts : 155
    Windows 7 - 64 bit
       #814

    I have been holding off installing KB2999226 and KB3097966 as tho the description says nothing about telemetry or OS upgrades, it is on a lot of folks "Hidden Updates" lists. Anyone care to enlighten me about what are the specific concerns with these updates ?
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  5. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #815

    This one isn't a big deal unless you have a D Link router
    Just a spoofing update right before Halloween
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3097966

    This one,
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2999226

    Seems like a preparation update for Windows live mail app mostly but not likely exclusive to wlm :/

    Key words are these might be Recommended updates but for the most part are Optional depending on your update settings and can be passed on downloading and installing.
    About this update


    The Windows 10 Universal CRT is a Windows operating system component that enables CRT functionality on the Windows operating system. This update allows Windows desktop applications that depend on the Windows 10 Universal CRT release to run on earlier Windows operating systems.

    Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 creates a dependency on the Universal CRT when applications are built by using the Windows 10 Software Development Kit (SDK). You can install this update on earlier Windows operating systems to enable these applications to run correctly.
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  6. Posts : 155
    Windows 7 - 64 bit
       #816

    Much Thx ...

    I did read the descriptions and about 3097966 being related to potential problems related to DLink, but thot that it mighta had something else as it was on a few peeps lists in this thread.

    As for the other, being an ole fogey, first thing that comes to mind when I see CRT is Cathode Ray Tube :) .... and yes I still have a 1600 x 1200 Nanao in use that I bought for $2k in early 1990s... at $100 / year ... I have gotten more use per dollar out of it than many LED screens.

    Not sure why it wasn't called VCRT (Visual C RunTime) .... I have 16 Visual C Redistributables entries in Programs and Features which were installed by various programs and / or games at one point or another (dated 2005 - 2013) and thot perhaps functionality might be impaired w/o the update. While on the subject .... it never really bothered me as they are rather small.... but is there any reason to keep those old 2005, 2008 Redistributables ? or is it like java whereby every once and a while I uninstall everything and just install the latest one ? My initial impression was that each program / game that installed it, might be tied to that version.
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  7. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #817

    Yea you can remove them and check your programs soon after to see if they work or not.
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  8. Posts : 42
    Win7 Ult x64
       #818

    Just a heads-up: KB2952664, which I had previously hidden (in Aug, Sept & Oct) showed back up again.

    According to my notes, it's W10 update-helper app that checks system compatibility and also enables some Telemetry
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  9. Posts : 1,109
    windows 7 professional 64 bit
       #819

    just found 12 " important " updates listed. They were not there Yesterday but appeared now, dd 12 Th of January 2016, so two days late;How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-updates-12-th-jan-16-untitled.jpg
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  10. Posts : 4,752
    Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
       #820

    Thrashzone -- I have your list of Updates above to avoid, but is there a running list anywhere that adds to the list if new ones are issued by Microsoft?
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