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New updates were no longer popping up in my system tray. Removing these Win10 updates means I am getting update notifications again.
New updates were no longer popping up in my system tray. Removing these Win10 updates means I am getting update notifications again.
@Brds7to7
Hope you still read the posts here.Due to problems with another program I had to return to an earlier image. This image was made before I did all the work described in previous posts (uninstalling the updates from the list I made based on posts in this thread.
Instead of taking the same steps I decided to install the GWX control.
I then installed the updates one by one.
KB2506928 ((post 103) – GWX Control - no message
KB 2660075 (post 103)- GWC Control - no message
KB2923545 )- – GWX Control - no message
No messages from GWX control
On the 26th I installed first:
KB2952664
I restarted PC - no message from GWX control
And then :
KB2970228
KB3035583
No messages when starting the pc on the 27th
Today however on startup GWX control signals (see attachment)
I saved diagnostics info - see end of this post
3 questions:
1. I had expected to get info on the Windows Update KB number to uninstall. I do not see them.
2. Do I use "Click to delete Windows 10 programs" to solve?
If so I will not know which Updates to hide if they come back
3. I had expected GWX control to prompt during installation or at least immediately after installation. You may remember that I planned to keep GWX control out of startup. I didn't now. If I had done so I would not have known I installed a dangerous Update
Current time=2016_02_28_11_28_21
Product Name=GWX Control Panel
Version=1.7.2.0
File Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\UltimateOutsider\GWX Control Panel\GWX_control_panel.exe
Program Mode=Normal Mode
OS Version=6.1 build 7601
OS Service Pack=1.0
OS Description=Service Pack 1
OS Platform=64-bit
User is Administrator=No
Background Intelligent Transfer Service=running.
Cryptographic Services=running.
Windows Update service=running.
Software Protection service=running.
Monitor Mode Flags=0x00000006
- Monitor Mode is enabled for all users in registry (HKLM Run GwxControlPanelMonitor).
- Monitor Mode is currently running.
Monitor Mode Preferences=(not displayed for normal mode)
Upgrade Flags=0x00001001
- OSUpgrade\AllowOSUpgrade setting is enabled (used by GWX User Experience).
- OSUpgrade\Refresh setting is enabled (this is not cause for concern).
Icon Flags=0x0000000f
- Get Windows 10 App (GWX.exe) found.
- GWX (policies)\DisableGWX is missing or disabled
- Get Windows 10 App (GWX.exe) currently running.
- Additional 32-bit version of get Windows 10 App (GWX.exe) found.
Folder Flags=0x00000000
- No hidden download folders found.
Size of Download Folders=(not found)
Files in Download Folders=(not found)
Windows Update preferences=Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them
*** BEGIN NORMAL MODE LOGS ***
20:02:38, tid: 2404, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
15:11:22, tid: 2404, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
15:12:22, tid: 2404, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
11:39:21, tid: 4708, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
17:35:37, tid: 4340, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
11:26:31, tid: 2164, INFO, code: 2, Monitor mode is enabled but not running. Launching new instance.
*** END NORMAL MODE LOGS ***
(No download folder error logs available.)
*** BEGIN MONITOR MODE LOGS ***
2016_02_11_20_02_39 - ALERT: NonCritical changed from 0x0000 to 0x1000 (0x1000)
2016_02_15_11_39_22 - ALERT: NonCritical changed from 0x0000 to 0x1000 (0x1000)
2016_02_18_18_30_02 - INFO: Dismissing alert because user is launching main program window.
2016_02_27_09_55_37 - ALERT: IconFlags changed from 0x0000 to 0x000b (0x0003)
2016_02_27_09_56_26 - ALERT: NonCritical changed from 0x0000 to 0x1000 (0x1000)
2016_02_27_09_56_26 - INFO: Problem resolved.
2016_02_28_11_26_23 - ALERT: IconFlags changed from 0x000b to 0x000f (0x0004)
2016_02_28_11_26_25 - INFO: Problem resolved.
2016_02_28_11_26_31 - INFO: Dismissing alert because user is launching main program window.
*** END MONITOR MODE LOGS ***
The personal excluded file lists include several categories which people have decided to block for various reasons:
1. Win10 Upgrade related KBs
2. Win 10 like features being added to Win 7 / 8
3. Hardware related items specific to certain hardware that don't apply to all users
4. Windows Defender / malicious software too, related
5. Recommended (optional) Upgrades that aren't security related.
You may or may not want top be concerned with all of them and I probably missed a few. AFAIK, GWX addresses itself only with category 1.
The optional updates above appear to add telemetry functions to the system. Do these updates serve any purpose related to Win 10? Is it recommended to install these updates?Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3068708)
Download size: 27.7 MB
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075249)
Download size: 1.2 MB
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3080149)
Download size: 16.7 MB
I haven't installed any Win 10 upgrade updates and I don't want to install these if they are related to upgrading to Win 10.
Regards
MS Updates Rules of Thumb:
- install the Security Updates
- Refrain from installing Optional or Recommended patches unless you have a good reason to do so.
- Avoid the optional hardware drives delivered thru MS Updates like the plague
- best to install drivers from the manufacturer... heard of too many problems from drivers delivered via WU
- even better not to install newer hardware drivers unless you have a compelling need to do so.
Re: telemetry updates... it's a personal choice. Some people don't object to them.
Others find MS increased intrusion to be in very bad taste -- to say the least -- and won't install them.
If you object to the telemetry updates, it might be a good idea to disable a number of the telemetry tasks set up in Task Scheduler :
- Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Application Experience > disable AitAgent & ProgramDataUpdater
- Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Autochk > disable Proxy
- Task Scheduler Library > Microsoft > Customer Experience Improvement Program > disable Consolidator, KernelCEIP Task & UsbCEIP
And make sure you've opted-out of the Customer Experience Improvement Program:
Control Panel > Action Center > Change Action Center setting > Customer Experience Improvement Program settings > check No, I don't want to participate in the program & click Save changes
Also, opt-out of CEIP in MS Office; for instance in Word or Excel:
File > Options > Trust Center > Trust Center Settings > Privacy Options > uncheck Sign up for the Customer Experience Improvement Program
Personally, I haven't installed any of the telemetry updates...
I did find a started task that will at least get rid of the "Get Win 10" ... for now.
Task Scheduler Library -> Microsoft -> Windows -> Setup ->GWX - disable "launchtrayprocess" and log off/on and it goes away.
As of today.
Win10 is now sneaking in thru internet explorer updates .... take a look at KB 3146449
"This update adds functionality to Internet Explorer 11 on some computers that lets users learn about Windows 10 or start an upgrade to Windows 10. Before you install this update, see the Prerequisites section. For more information about Windows 10, see Windows 10."
And also read that they are now pushing ads to the lock screen, ain't that just dandy ... yet another reason not to "go there".
My updated list for March:
Windows 7
Telemetry:
KB2952664 - Compatibility update for Windows 7 SP1 https://support.microsoft.com/kb/2952664
KB2977759 - Compatibility update for Windows 7 RTM (Without SP1) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2977759
KB3021917 - Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3021917
KB3022345 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry (superseded by KB3068708) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3022345
KB3035583 - "Get Windows 10" App (System Tray Nagware/Telemetry) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583
KB3068708 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry (replaces KB3022345) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708
KB3075249 - Update that adds telemetry points to UAC in Windows 7 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249
KB3080149 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149
KB3123862 - Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3123862
Windows Update Client:
KB2990214 - Update that enables you to upgrade from Win7 to Win10 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2990214
KB3050265 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: June 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265
KB3065987 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: July 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987
KB3075851 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: August 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075851
KB3083324 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: September 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083324
KB3083710 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: October 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083710
KB3102810 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7 - High CPU/Long Scan Fix https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810
(Recommend installing KB3102810 if you have installed the previous Windows Update Client Updates)
KB3112343 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: December 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112343
KB3135445 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: February 2016 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3135445
KB3138612 - Windows Update Client for Windows 7: March 2016 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138612
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Windows 8/8.1
Telemetry:
KB2976978 - Compatibility update for Windows 8/8.1 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2976978
KB3022345 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry (superseded by KB3068708) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3022345
KB3035583 - "Get Windows 10" App (System Tray Nagware/Telemetry) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583
KB3064683 - Windows 8.1 OOBE modifications to reserve Windows 10 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3064683
KB3068708 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry (replaces KB3022345) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708
KB3072318 - Update for Windows 8.1 OOBE to upgrade to Windows 10 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3072318
KB3075249 - Update that adds telemetry points to UAC in Windows 8.1 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249
KB3080149 - Update for customer experience diagnostic telemetry https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149
KB3123862 - Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3123862
Windows Update Client:
KB3044374 - Update that enables you to upgrade from Win8.1 to Win10 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3044374
KB3050267 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: June 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050267
KB3065988 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: July 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988
KB3075853 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: August 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075853
KB3083325 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: September 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083325
KB3083711 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: October 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083711
KB3102812 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 - High CPU/Long Scan Fix https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102812
(Recommend installing KB3102812 if you have installed the previous Windows Update Client Updates)
KB3112336 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: December 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112336
KB3135449 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: February 2016 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3135449
KB3138615 - Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: March 2016 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138615