KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden

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  1. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #51

    cyclops said:
    This might be the answer. Check to see if update KB3065987 is installed. Supposedly the one that installs that function.

    Group Policy

    Microsoft has released new updates to enable you to block upgrades to Windows 10 through Windows Update. These updates install a new Group Policy Object. Computers that have this Group Policy Object enabled will never detect, download, or install an upgrade to the latest version of Windows.

    To obtain and install these updates, go to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

    3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015
    3065988 Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: July 2015
    To configure this Group Policy Object by using Group Policy, the following conditions apply:


    • The appropriate update must be installed.
    • You must use the updated WindowsUpdate.admx file by copying the file from the editing policy location.
    Computer Configuration

    To block the upgrade by using Computer Configuration, follow these steps


    1. Click Computer Configuration.
    2. Click Policies.
    3. Click Administrative Templates.
    4. Click Windows Components.
    5. Click Windows Update.
    6. Double-click Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
    7. Click Enable.
    Policy path: Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Update Policy
    Setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update
    That one is also hidden. I have no desire install the damned thing.
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  2. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #52

    I hid it too! It's of no use on my Windows 7 HP.

    Note:

    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

    Any update below the one shown in bold type "should" add Windows 10 upgrade blocking to group policy editor. I say should - because I cannot test on my own machine.
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  3. Posts : 543
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #53

    Callender, have you looked into this?
    Windows registry

    Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.

    To suppress this offer through the registry, specify the following registry value:

    Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
    DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1
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  4. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #54

    Callender said:
    Lady Fitzgerald said:
    Now tell me where the hell is "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version"? Still wondering why I got frustrated?
    As far as I know it is KB3083710 that adds this feature to Group Policy Editor. It is a Windows Update Client Upgrade. Note: Does not work in Windows 7 Home Premium.

    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083710) replaces the following updates:

    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2990214)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3050265)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3065987)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3075851)
    Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3083324)

    Link - Use IE to visit:

    https://catalog.update.microsoft.com...px?q=KB3083710
    KB3083710 is the October update to the Windows Update client. The ability to use this GPO setting was added in July 2015 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987

    That GPO setting has been in all subsequent updates to the Windows Update client. Here is an install with virtually no other updates applied:

    KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden-capture.png

    When you enable that option, it changes one thing in the registry:
    Code:
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Group Policy Objects\{8BBD6212-1487-43B7-84C9-53FB0CDF551B}Machine\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\DisableOSUpgrade
    As you noted, this does not help on certain versions of Windows. However, it is not because those versions lack the user interface (gpedit) to make the changes to the registry. It is because some mechanism (process/app) is missing from "lower versions" of Windows. Some (all?) policy settings under the Group Policy Objects structure are ignored when that mechanism is missing.

    That is why I made post #18 in this tread. It uses the same "DisableOSUpgrade" value name, but in an area that all versions of Windows should obey.
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  5. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #55

    Process Monitor only showed one area of the registry being changed.

    KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden-capture.png

    I find it odd that a change to the Computer Configuration policies was written to the HKCU hive. After logging off and logging back in, that Group Policy Objects key quoted in my last post is no longer under the HKCU hive*. I guess that some process applied it somewhere in the HKLM hive. Fortunately for me, I'm not interested in this enough to spend any more time on it

    *or maybe I'm too tired to see straight.
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  6. Posts : 543
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #56

    UsernameIssues, is Sysinternals a free app?

    I'm getting tired from this too!
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  7. Posts : 10,485
    W7 Pro SP1 64bit
       #57

    As far as I know, all of these are free:
    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb795533.aspx

    Sysinternals was purchased by Microsoft years ago... but kept the name Sysinternals.
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  8. Posts : 543
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #58

    Thank you. More tools, I like tools.
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  9. Posts : 543
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #59
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  10. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #60

    cyclops said:
    Callender, have you looked into this?
    Windows registry

    Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.

    To suppress this offer through the registry, specify the following registry value:

    Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
    DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1
    I am aware of the option to edit the registry but since I have not installed any Windows 10 upgrade updates I have no need to create that entry.

    :)
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